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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50476: Jan 29th 2016 at 8:26:45 AM

He could return from Kun Lun in Luke Cage - he could be returning to track down some evil or something, and they end up Working the Same Case,

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#50477: Jan 29th 2016 at 9:08:06 AM

[up]

That could work, but I guess my thoughts are that they should write the Luke Cage series first and foremost as a Luke Cage show, and the Iron Fist show first and foremost as a Danny Rand show. Everything else is secondary to this, including facilitating crossovers.

Besides, the whole point of the Defenders is for all the MCU Netflix heroes to do an epic crossover, so it's not like the characters were ever in any danger of not crossing paths.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50478: Jan 29th 2016 at 9:17:41 AM

Luke had a sizable role in Jessica Jones, but it was still Jessica's show through and through.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#50479: Jan 29th 2016 at 9:26:36 AM

I'm way more excited for the Defenders than I ever was for Avengers.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#50480: Jan 29th 2016 at 9:28:16 AM

[up] Same here.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#50481: Jan 29th 2016 at 9:41:43 AM

Who says that Iron Fist will be shown before The Defenders? They might introduce his character as "mysterious new team member" first and later show his backstory in his own show.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#50482: Jan 29th 2016 at 9:48:18 AM

The fact that his show already has a showrunner and has clear signs of currently recruiting people/being worked on seems to make it pretty clear his show's up before Defenders, which we only know is coming.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#50483: Jan 29th 2016 at 9:57:33 AM

I really hope they cast someone with a thick Asian accent. It should be apparent that Danny is a person of two cultures.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#50484: Jan 29th 2016 at 10:15:21 AM

Speaking of which, one thing I really liked about Andrew Garfield's take on Peter Parker was that he had a New York accent. I hope Tom Holland does the same.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#50485: Jan 29th 2016 at 10:20:23 AM

[up][up] In my opinion, regardless of the ethnicity of the actor the character of Danny Rand needs to have strong ties to New York City. Which means it's probably best for him be a 3rd generation American at minimum, which in turn means he would of learned English as a child in the United States. That means he shouldn't speak English with a strong Chinese accent.

What the actor needs to be able to do is speak Chinese fluently without an American accent.

And honestly I don't care what the natural accent of any actor is if they can fake it well enough to fool someone who actually has that accent.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#50486: Jan 29th 2016 at 10:22:17 AM

Also, it would be consistent with the approach that Marvel took with their mainline films, being that almost every member of the Avengers was built up in a prior film (black widows did not have her own movie, but was introduced in iron man 2). Hawkeye was the only Avenger to be introduced in that film proper.

Taking that into account, giving Iron Fist his own series before The Defenders would make sense.

edited 29th Jan '16 10:22:56 AM by wehrmacht

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#50487: Jan 29th 2016 at 11:17:00 AM

[up][up][up]Agree.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#50488: Jan 29th 2016 at 12:32:52 PM

[up][up] Hawkeye made a cameo in Thor.

Oh God! Natural light!
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#50489: Jan 29th 2016 at 1:49:37 PM

...did he? I honestly had completely forgotten, but if he did that only reinforces my point.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50490: Jan 29th 2016 at 2:05:14 PM

Yep. He was in one scene where he almost fired on Thor, but decided not to, saying "I'm beginning to root for this guy." And then he was gone, like he was never there are all.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#50491: Jan 29th 2016 at 2:24:48 PM

[up] He really did do nothing constructive to the plot.

Crow: There's a plot?
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#50492: Jan 29th 2016 at 2:26:32 PM

It was just a fun little cameo.

One of those shared universe moments people keep advocating for.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#50493: Jan 29th 2016 at 2:30:37 PM

He had one of the best lines of the movie when he asked Coulson if he should fire or should he wait so that the intruder could beat down more agents he send.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#50495: Jan 29th 2016 at 4:30:53 PM

Hype.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#50497: Jan 29th 2016 at 4:40:23 PM

fight me irl

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#50498: Jan 29th 2016 at 6:23:20 PM

I've read Infinity Gauntlet and currently reading a Dr Strange trade and I'm curious: Who owns Cloak and Dagger? Also, I thought it interesting if Thanos were to revive/acquire old enemies as a sort of "evil Avengers".

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#50499: Jan 29th 2016 at 6:29:04 PM

[up]Marvel. I am actually hoping that they consider a Cloak and Dagger movie down the line, even though they are more street level.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#50500: Jan 29th 2016 at 6:38:10 PM

What Dagger can do hasn't come up yet, but I like Cloak's whole "Absorb people into darkness" thing. Reminds me of what Raven did to Dr Light in Teen Titans.


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