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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#50451: Jan 28th 2016 at 1:24:11 PM

That came out over a year ago. Maybe Feige changed his mind?

edited 28th Jan '16 1:24:23 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50452: Jan 28th 2016 at 1:24:53 PM

The reasoning is still as valid now as it was before, so we'd need a reason to believe he thinks differently.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#50453: Jan 28th 2016 at 1:26:51 PM

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#50454: Jan 28th 2016 at 2:19:33 PM

I've never quite gotten that. Doing Planet Hulk or at least elements of Planet Hulk doesn't mean there'll be no Banner at all, especially since as someone just said, the MCU only ever loosely adapts stories anyway. You could easily do a Planet Hulk-inspired arc for the Hulk that still heavily incorporates Banner.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#50455: Jan 28th 2016 at 3:01:25 PM

I remember Ruffalo also made a remark about the Hulk changing and evolving in Ragnarok somehow.

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#50456: Jan 28th 2016 at 3:46:17 PM

  • Speaking of the Black Order, I fear that they will be Chitauris 3.0.
    • I don't have anything in against of the black widow, but I don't want that a member of black Order lose a fight against her.

edited 28th Jan '16 3:58:02 PM by dantecito

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#50457: Jan 28th 2016 at 4:47:00 PM

What if she's part of a team attack with Hawkeye and Quill?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#50458: Jan 28th 2016 at 4:47:52 PM

Black Panther beat Black Dwarf, for what it's worth.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#50459: Jan 28th 2016 at 4:52:13 PM

Interesting match-up there

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#50460: Jan 28th 2016 at 4:52:19 PM

Black Panther was given vaguely defined superpowers during that whole run though. He's never been above Badass Normal levels most of his comic history.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#50461: Jan 28th 2016 at 4:55:02 PM

People are going to beat enemies outside their power levels otherwise, what are comics for?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#50462: Jan 28th 2016 at 4:58:12 PM

I mean, I got the impression that compared to the others, Black Dwarf didn't have much going for him. Mostly just super-strength, from what I could tell.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#50463: Jan 28th 2016 at 5:06:17 PM

Black Panther had super strength at that point as a result of getting added "King of the Dead" powers.

That said there's more ways to defeat an opponent than punching them. Black Widow could use cunning and trickery to take one out if need be. And that's assuming it'd be a one on one fight.

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#50464: Jan 28th 2016 at 8:02:43 PM

I believe every member should be stronger than a Super-soldier and an average asgardian, but weaker than Hulk and Thor.

After seeing how dangerous that were the Sentinels. I was disappointed with the Ultron's clones.

edited 28th Jan '16 8:08:24 PM by dantecito

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#50465: Jan 28th 2016 at 8:05:24 PM

I don't know about that. Ebony Maw doesn't show any physical capabilities, but that doesn't make him any less dangerous.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#50466: Jan 28th 2016 at 8:06:22 PM

Two of them definitely don't have super strength, so it makes sense that someone like Black Widow or Haweye could get the upper hand with planning or surprise.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50468: Jan 28th 2016 at 9:50:58 PM

On the one hand, that could pretty much indicate that Danny Rand is in the new Luke Cage show (which make sense). Or that Mike Colter was making a joke -after all, he did say that they were keeping the actor in the basement, too.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50469: Jan 28th 2016 at 10:55:55 PM

Yeah, that's probably an exaggeration. I'm sure Disney lets their actors out for some fresh air every once in a while.

edited 28th Jan '16 10:56:10 PM by KnownUnknown

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#50471: Jan 29th 2016 at 5:00:15 AM

Maybe they're keeping the actor in the attic, instead?

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#50473: Jan 29th 2016 at 7:18:06 AM

The Bruce Banner pod breaks occasionally. The actors probably get tired of being referred to only as their character, though.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#50474: Jan 29th 2016 at 7:29:54 AM

[up]Oh, don't worry about that. Marvel's made sure to stick a brainwashing program in each pod. As far as the actors' are concerned, they aren't just playing the characters; they are the characters.

edited 29th Jan '16 11:30:34 AM by kkhohoho

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#50475: Jan 29th 2016 at 7:34:47 AM

I don't really expect Iron Fist to be in Luke Cage because the timeline doesn't really allow it.

Going by the official synopsis of the Iron Fist series, the main story picks up immediately after Danny Rand returns to New York City. And since the Netflix series have thus far been in chronological order, that would mean Danny Rand is still in Kun Lun during the events of the Luke Cage series.

There are ways around this (flashforwards, or breaking the chronological order by setting the Iron Fist series before Luke Cage), but ultimately I hope they don't feel the need to disrupt the narrative of either show for the sake of shoving an Iron Fist cameo in where it's not needed.

All of that aside, I 100% expect Luke Cage to appear in the Iron Fist series and for the characters to have a lot of teamups going forward, so it makes sense that they would want to cast someone who could work well with Mike Colter and involve him in the casting process.


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