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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#50276: Jan 26th 2016 at 2:40:34 PM

He can eat and taste. I don't remember whether he poops or not.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
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#50279: Jan 26th 2016 at 3:01:23 PM

[up][up]It's interesting that they're all MCU things except the Masters of Evil. Wonder if this is a hint that Zemo will be getting the band together in future movies.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#50280: Jan 26th 2016 at 3:07:08 PM

There's also a Thunderbolts pack if you preordered.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#50281: Jan 26th 2016 at 4:17:13 PM

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Interesting. From the description he sounds more like he would be a character in Agent Carter.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
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#50283: Jan 26th 2016 at 4:47:45 PM

Okay imagine, if you will, a scenerio where Thor, Sif, and the Warriors Three are unable to beat the main threat and are defeated.

Thor ends up on a gladiator planet, Sakaar, as a gladiator. He meets and fights Hulk and they escape. Thor meets Hulk's gladiator friends: Miek, Hiroim, Korg, Brood, and Elloe, the Warbound. Hulk and Caiera have a fight-date and Caiera tells Hulk her background. Hulk, the Warbound, and Thor topple the Red King.

The Warbound and Hulk agree to help Thor with his Ragnarok problem and we get a Big Badass Battle Sequence involving Thor, Hulk, Odin, Sif, Caiera, Fandral, Korg, Hogun, Miek, Volstagg, Hiroim, Brood, Elloe, and both armies of Asgard and Sakaar working together. The movie ends with Thor dying to the Midgard Serpent, Odin dying to Fenrir, eveyone holding a funeral for the deceased, and Hulk going back to Sakaar to rule over it for the foreseeable future.

edited 26th Jan '16 4:56:31 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#50284: Jan 26th 2016 at 4:51:55 PM

Balder doesn't exist in the MCU to start with...

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#50285: Jan 26th 2016 at 4:56:55 PM

He's taken out.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50286: Jan 26th 2016 at 4:57:38 PM

[up][up][up] The problem with that scenario is that it introduces a ton of characters at once and, again, shoves in Planet Hulk into the Ragnarok. Even if you were to shove it in there, it would be impossible to actually set up all those characters and make us care about them, as well as set up Thor and the Ragnarok storyline at the same time without the run time going over three hours long. And I don't think any MCU film has gone past two hours.

There's really no point in introducing elements from Planet Hulk unless you actually just adapt Planet Hulk and they can't do that.

edited 26th Jan '16 4:57:51 PM by alliterator

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#50287: Jan 26th 2016 at 5:00:07 PM

That sounds like a Planet Hulk sandwich with Thor bread.

Can we just leave the Planet Hulk stuff to the side? I'd rather them not do the story at all over them hyper-condensing it into another story's second act. And yes, it would have to be condensed to a rudiculous degree alongside pulling the focus entirely away from Thor.

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#50288: Jan 26th 2016 at 5:02:04 PM

Just give a quick run-down on who all the Warbound are when they're introduced to Thor and have each of them have quick and awesome scenes in the Big Badass Battle Sequence.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#50289: Jan 26th 2016 at 5:04:30 PM

Besides, Planet Hulk would bring a ton of baggage that couldn't be addressed seeing as how Hulk needs to be in a position where punching Thanos will be viable.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#50290: Jan 26th 2016 at 5:07:28 PM

I feel like king of a battle planet is a pretty good position to deck Thanos in the schnozz.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#50291: Jan 26th 2016 at 5:15:12 PM

Yeah, drop the idea that anything of Planet Hulk needs to be in Thor 3. It doesn't due Planet Hulk any justice, and it basically makes Thor a second stringer in his solo film.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#50292: Jan 26th 2016 at 5:24:26 PM

Keep it away from Thor, but I would definitely like to see a Planet Hulk movie at some point.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50293: Jan 26th 2016 at 5:58:10 PM

Just give a quick run-down on who all the Warbound are when they're introduced to Thor and have each of them have quick and awesome scenes in the Big Badass Battle Sequence.
I'm sorry, but...that still doesn't make me care about the characters at all. The actual storyline of Planet Hulk had extended scenes of them talking about their backstories and bonding with each other. If the Hulk just shows up with the Warbound, it will be the biggest Big-Lipped Alligator Moment ever because...who are all these people and why should we care? Giving all of them a scene where they kick ass wouldn't mitigate that, it would just turn into Character Shilling.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#50294: Jan 26th 2016 at 6:01:04 PM

So....what about ward world hulk? I meant you think we could see Hulk against the avengers? that would be pretty neat

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#50295: Jan 26th 2016 at 6:02:17 PM

Ward World Hulk?

Well it'd be kinda inconvenient for Ward to come back, but he really would deserve getting kicked in the balls by the Hulk.

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#50296: Jan 26th 2016 at 6:05:38 PM

...or it could turn all of them into Ensemble Dark Horse's and make a ton of people who only watch the movies interested in the Planet Hulk storyline. Also, Thor would be a second-stringer to Hulk for 1/3 of the movie: the first 1/3 wouldn't even have Hulk and the final 1/3 would have Thor take precedence over Hulk.

I'm just saying, I'd MUCH rather see a compressed version of Planet Hulk than no Planet Hulk at all. Especially since Hulk would still be king of Sakaar at the end, opening up interactions between king-Hulk and the Warbound and the other MCU characters.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#50297: Jan 26th 2016 at 6:06:40 PM

Speculating is fun. But honestly: I am more in a "Wait and see" mood. For now I want Marvel to deliver a Phase 3 which is even better than Phase 2 (which was already very good thanks to Winter Soldier and Got G), and I hope that they don't rush into some of the characters. I want to explore this generation of heroes first before delving into the next generation. And Cassie will be an adult in no time...in phase 5 she will already have an acceptable age for going all heroic.

The only thing I am really hoping for is that Marvel won't do a "fluent time-line" in the movies but instead allow heroes to either fade out or die with time, leaving room for the next generation.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#50298: Jan 26th 2016 at 6:14:18 PM

i just want civil war and black panther to be good

of course it would be awesome if they were all amazing movies but realistically, i'm only expecting one great movie (which if i'm guessing will be civil war) and maybe two decent movies (gotg2 and hopefully black panther), with the rest varying between ok and underwhelming since that's been my opinion of the phase 1 and 2 slates as well.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50299: Jan 26th 2016 at 6:19:28 PM

Haven't we already done "Hulk vs the Avengers" twice now?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#50300: Jan 26th 2016 at 6:20:51 PM

I don't ever want to see World War Hulk. That storyline is the biggest Happy Ending Override I've ever seen the Hulk get, on top of requiring the movie-going audience to accept that the Hulk has any justification for conquering Earth.

Plus, you know, it doesn't feel nearly as good without Tony and the rest of the Illuminati actually doing anything to justify the Hulk attacking them.


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