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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#50151: Jan 24th 2016 at 1:42:25 PM

I also think Awesome Mix Volume One is the perfect album. In terms of pacing and energy it is a vastly enjoyable 45 minuets, and each song follows from the last perfectly.

Of course the album is in a different order than the film itself.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#50152: Jan 24th 2016 at 4:45:04 PM

OT, but I saw that Captain America special the other day. Enjoyed it, although it did spoil the impact of the episode of Agent Carter since it showed a clip of what turned out to be the episode's opening scene.

I kind of wonder if the details presented make it more or less likely that Steve will be killed off and Sam will replace him. And if killed off it will be temporary.

One thing I thought funny is seeing Reginald Hudlin and Joe Queseda, both of whom seem like nice/normal people- given that they seem to usually be known in the context of ill-liked comic book arcs.

Surprised there wasn't more discussion of Brubaker's writing though or any discussion of how the "Commie Smasher" version of Cap was rectconned as being a Loony Fan.

edited 24th Jan '16 4:46:20 PM by Hodor2

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50153: Jan 24th 2016 at 4:54:07 PM

One thing I thought funny is seeing Reginald Hudlin and Joe Queseda, both of whom seem like nice/normal people- given that they seem to usually be known in the context of ill-liked comic book arcs.
To be fair, both are also known for doing other things: Quesada is a pretty good artist who managed to revive Daredevil by using the Marvel Knights imprint and bringing Brian Michael Bendis aboard and then did a bunch of other good stuff as EIC of Marvel, including getting Ed Brubaker to write Captain America.

And Reginald Hudlin...directed House Party.

edited 24th Jan '16 4:54:32 PM by alliterator

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50155: Jan 24th 2016 at 5:04:27 PM

That was a pretty awesome scene, but yeah, it would have been so much better with Stan Lee.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#50156: Jan 24th 2016 at 5:06:58 PM

Okay, people having a picnic on the railroad tracks was hilarious.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#50157: Jan 24th 2016 at 5:14:18 PM

I was a fan of the random PIG.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#50158: Jan 24th 2016 at 5:19:38 PM

I was not expecting the LEGO version of the "why didn't the Ultron drones take the Package and Nat instead of only Nat" scene to make more sense than the movie's.

One thing I thought funny is seeing Reginald Hudlin and Joe Queseda, both of whom seem like nice/normal people- given that they seem to usually be known in the context of ill-liked comic book arcs.

No matter the quality of their writing, it's easy to forget that good writers, bad writers, writers are just people, and their writing is still just words and pictures, not actual crimes.

I did find it pretty amusing that in that special Marvel finally admitted: "Okay, the leader of the Secret Empire was Nixon and not the Chief of Staff like we tried copping out that one time. "

edited 24th Jan '16 5:20:59 PM by Tuckerscreator

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#50159: Jan 24th 2016 at 6:40:18 PM

I recently saw Nixon being revealed to be the Secret Empire's leader listed as one of the top WTF moments in comic history, and I have to agree.

I mean it seems ridiculous now 40 years later so imagine what it must've been like at the time.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50160: Jan 24th 2016 at 9:54:39 PM

On the music conversation, here's a compilation of every single Marvel property's main theme, or at least a song from the soundtrack that shows off each movie's main themes most strongly.

I gotta admit, since they share a lot of the same cues and such they do kind of run together. Most of them have at least one or two parts that's very unique to them, but a lot of them are very same-y, especially as time went on. But still, I forgot how much I liked some of the soundtracks in the series - like Thor 1.

I didn't know Danny Elfman was involved in the score for Ultron. Or that Christophe Beck was involved with Ant-Man. This might also be the first time I've ever heard the Agents of SHIELD theme.

edited 24th Jan '16 10:03:28 PM by KnownUnknown

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50161: Jan 24th 2016 at 11:41:41 PM

Christophe Beck! Oh man, I loved his music for Buffy the Vampire Slayer. There totally needs to be a silent movie for the MCU now - perhaps Hawkeye goes deaf like his comic counterpart?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#50162: Jan 25th 2016 at 3:20:29 AM

I never understood why there are so many complains about the soundtracks in the Marvel movies....I actually love all of them. And the only TV show theme I didn't like initially is the one of Jessica Jones, and even that grew on me.

Still like the soundtracks from the Captain America movies the best, though. The first one sounds so patriotic (and really, how can you go wrong with Menken and Silvestri? That is practically impossible).

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#50163: Jan 25th 2016 at 5:26:20 AM

They're all functional, but few of them leave you with an impression going out of the movie, and of the ones that did, Avengers got there by repeating the main theme to the point of borderline annoying, and Thor The Dark World did so by aping the already-recognizable main theme song.

edited 25th Jan '16 5:33:07 AM by AlleyOop

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#50164: Jan 25th 2016 at 5:41:33 AM

Do we think a captain Britain/Lionheart film could work? The premise of hopping between alternative worlds is interesting. It could be quite swashbuckling.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#50165: Jan 25th 2016 at 7:54:36 AM

The MCU is too US focused so I could never see it happening for real right now unless most of the movie is off Earth-199999. Would've been nice to see Faiza though.

edited 25th Jan '16 7:56:01 AM by LordofLore

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#50166: Jan 25th 2016 at 8:28:40 AM

Although there is some interesting stuff in Marvel's UK, it's unlikely any of it will end up in the movies, although I guess not impossible. Captain Britain's links to Otherworld could potentially be used in a magic movie and someone like Faiza could turn up if they used MI-13 as an organisation that built up in response to SHIELD.

edited 25th Jan '16 8:29:39 AM by TenebrousGaze

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#50167: Jan 25th 2016 at 8:39:55 AM

I want a EU/Asia superhero team that has no actual problems working together. Call them something like Excalibur, Squadron Supreme or just MI-13 Special Division and fill it with folks like Captain Britain and people that will never be on the actual movie!Avengers team like Swordsman, Black Knight, Sersi etc. Could just show up as a "Look, even Germany has their own Avengers now!" moment in a movie and then focus a later movie on them defending Earth from Morgan le Fay or something while the Avengers are off in space.

edited 25th Jan '16 8:44:20 AM by LordofLore

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#50168: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:09:25 AM

[up] Something like that might work after Infinity War - that seems like a good place to have superheroes becoming not just the norm, but commonplace.

Oh God! Natural light!
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#50170: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:33:58 AM

I look forward to Marvel's explanation for Hulk ending up on another world if true. I'm starting to think this latest source is just another troll.

edited 25th Jan '16 9:36:31 AM by LordofLore

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50171: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:43:45 AM

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. There's no way a Quinjet can reach outer space, let alone an alien planet.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50172: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:44:05 AM

Thor The Dark World did so by aping the already-recognizable main theme song.

Other way around, iirc. The recognizable current Marvel main theme started with The Dark World. Before that, there was either just the "shuffling pages" sound effect or unique stuff depending on the movie.

[up][up] and [up]: Maybe Thor runs into him after he ditched the Quinjet. Or maybe it's like Hulk Vs, and someone kidnapped him in an ill-advised attempt to use him as a weapon against Thor.

edited 25th Jan '16 9:46:07 AM by KnownUnknown

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#50173: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:45:38 AM

And one of the last things Ao U did was say "Oh, we found the jet(somewhere in southeast asia IIRC)but he wasn't in it".

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#50174: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:46:44 AM

Nobody said he took the Quinjet to space.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50175: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:48:33 AM

Yeah, but the implication is that the Hulk ran away to another planet, which is impossible. If someone kidnapped him...why? Just to fight in gladiatorial games? Honestly, I think this is all just wishful thinking of people who really want to see Planet Hulk.


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