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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Really? I thought Living!Old!Loki was explicitly The-Loki-Who-Burned who became a god of evil and assembled the Avengers all those years ago.
So is Living!Old!Loki Ghost!Old!Loki's future then? That surprises me. Wait, so Frigga got him so she could know the future, that vision of Thor as king wasn't a Vision, it was a memory?
In Siege, Loki died and then Thor brought him back as a kid without any memories of who he was. This, then, was Kid Loki. However, Old Loki had left behind a copy of all his memories and personality in the form of an illusionary raven (which Kid Loki called "Ikol") and eventually Kid Loki had to allow his personality to be overwritten by this copy of Old Loki. This wasn't, of course, the real Old Loki, who was dead, it was just a copy. This, then, became the New Kid Loki, who eventually became Teen Loki.
Now, then, Teen Loki eventually realized that he didn't want to be evil, so he decided to work for the All-Mothers — for each job he did for them, they would erase one of the stories of Old Loki. However, "King Loki" arrived from the future and was revealed to be the real Agent of Asgard, as Freya realized that a future where Loki was evil, but Thor was king was preferable to one where the future was uncertain. King Loki turned out to be the older version of Teen Loki after he had finished his duty with the All-Mother - however, everyone still knew him as the God of Lies and no one trusted him, so eventually he went evil, killed the Earth, and became King Loki. He then went back in time, ostensibly in order to force his younger self to become King Loki sooner.
What he ended up doing, however, when forcing Teen Loki to choose between oblivion and King Loki, he in fact chose a third option: instead, he realized that stories were simply strings of lies, so they were reborn as Loki, God/Goddess of Stories (they tended to switch genders a lot). Story Loki then saved Asgard at the brink of Ragnarok, successfully bluffed They Who Sit Above in Shadow, saw that Secret Wars was going on, said, "Nah, let's skip it," and walked away with their best friend.
And that was Loki: Agent of Asgard.
edited 22nd Jan '16 7:56:28 PM by alliterator
You really should. Basically, start with Kieron Gillen's Journey Into Mystery (the Kid Loki stuff), then his Young Avengers (the New Kid/Teen Loki stuff), and then Al Ewing's Loki: Agent of Asgard (the rest). It's pretty awesome.
Jason Aaron is currently using the new Loki in Mighty Thor, but nobody's sure yet if he's evil or not. He could be evil or he could simply be tricking the other villains (which I hope is the case).
edited 22nd Jan '16 8:44:31 PM by alliterator
I tried reading Gillen's Journey. It was...a LOT of time was spent rounding up a whole buncha different characters for a big thing and I just couldn't get into it.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Something curious is that Axis Loki (Or inverted Loki) and Black Widow, can lift the Mjolnir.
- But Axis Loki is of fact a Jerk to his friends Sigurd and Lorelei, and also is example of Henpecked Husband with his girlfriend Amora the Enchantress.
- While Black Widow is an anti-heroic assassin.
Although these two cases are certainly examples of bad writing.
Ah yes, I read Siege and the first four or five issues of Loki Agent of Asguard and although LAoA was incredibly well written and complex in a deeply satisfying way, I appreciated that I was missing some kind of context, so I didn't continue it. Now that I understand some ambiguities I'll certainly pick it up again.
Agent of Asguard has probably my favourite interaction with time travel I've ever encountered. Characters explicitly read their own stories and write their own backgrounds to create themselves. (not unlike the original mythology, which had this weird nature of all of time happening simultaneously) As with magic in the book, things can work is thematically they work. Which makes for a very cohesive approach and so much potential for gambits.
I'd certainly recommend it. The gender-fluid stuff is quite a boon too.
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Not...really. While both the JARVIS AI and Edwin Jarvis have British accents and are very deadpan, FRIDAY was voiced by Kerry Condon
, who is Irish and uses her own Irish accent, and Ana Jarvis is played by Lotte Verbeek
, who is Dutch and uses her own Dutch accent. Plus, if it was based on Ana, it probably would have been called ANA.
Probably, FRIDAY is just based on the "Girl Friday" trope.
edited 23rd Jan '16 9:16:32 AM by alliterator
The more I watch it and think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that it's an enjoyable movie and I have a lot of fun with it, but it's not particularly good. Like, most of the ideas are good on paper, but none of them are given the necessary time to develop.
I don't have much of a problem with Whedon as a director, but I wish he'd realized beforehand what a bad idea trying to make it shorter was. The Avengers was a lot of good things, but it still wasn't perfect when it came to juggling its characters. And to add more characters, try to give them each their own arcs, and not only tie together all the movies that came before but actively set up at least three future movies, all in less time? Doomed from the start.

I think the MCU has made it pretty clear that Cap's flaw is his Blood Knight tendencies. Thor doesn't seem to have that problem. If he brought peace to the Nine Realms he'd be perfectly fine sitting in Asgard and ruling. Cap on the other hand would never be satisfied with just settling down. He'd immediately start looking for another person to punch. That's why he couldn't lift the hammer.
edited 22nd Jan '16 6:12:31 PM by Kostya