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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I suppose one could argue that Thor is worthy by default (unless he screws up), since it is his hammer. But everyone else has to have special worthiness. I mean it was made for him and I think Tony's "fingerprint scanner" theory does get at how the worthiness standard is in part to avoid it being taken from/used against him.
IIRC, what makes Beta Ray Bill using the hammer shocking isn't just that he's a weird horse-headed alien, it's also that he's thor's enemy at the time, right?
Now that still doesn't explain why none of the Avengers could lift it, particularly Cap.
edited 22nd Jan '16 2:37:30 PM by Hodor2
Thor had to become Worthy of the hammer, though. He explicitly doesn't get special exemption from the Worthiness clause.
edited 22nd Jan '16 2:37:18 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I don't particularly want to see Jane-Thor anyways, i'm more or less with Very Melon on this one.
That doesn't fit with the phrasing.
"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be Worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."
The way it's worded implies that anyone can lift the Hammer so long as they possess the qualities of "Worthy", and will gain Thor's powers from doing so.
It's also one of the pieces of evidence that the elevator metaphor regarding Vision was accurate. Vision did not possess the powers of Thor from holding his hammer, and so the clause was not fulfilled.
edited 22nd Jan '16 2:48:40 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I don't like that. It robs the scene where he picks it up of impact.
I prefer to think Vision didn't use the lightning powers because ELEC attacks are super effective against him.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersShe has. She's basically a one-dimensional Action Girl archetype.
I don't want Thor-Sif just because Sif is awesome enough as she is. She doesn't need Thor's powers. She just needs more opportunity to flex her characterization and establish herself.
edited 22nd Jan '16 2:59:19 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Maybe they reassemble the hammer in space, but find out someone else has been gathering pieces too. A weird horse-headed cyborg alien has half of the hammer and challenges Thor for his half...
I just want Beta Ray Bill. It would be just as contrived as, and require the plot to bend up its own arse just as much as, making Jane-Thor a thing in the movies right now. However, if we're talking about contrived arsebending plot twists, that's the one I want.
I mean, your argument against having Jane Thor basically boils down to "She's boring, she's not interesting, I don't like her." Which, if she is written well, won't be a problem.
edited 22nd Jan '16 4:28:03 PM by alliterator
Nothing like that has happened in the MCU, but it would be cool if it did.
I imagine what would happen if Jane Foster was turning in Thor-Girl (In the phase 4).
- Sif: For a strange reason, this event incites me to allow that Loki's ghost possess my body.
- Loki's Ghost: I had planned to take the body of my clone, but I'm flexible.
- Kid Loki: Really?, that good news.
edited 22nd Jan '16 5:35:47 PM by dantecito

That's a fair point, but it doesn't change that "plot reasons" aren't a good way to do anything.
And it also doesn't change that nothing about Jane indicates she's anything like Thor. Certainly not that she has any traits he does that Cap or Tony lack.
edited 22nd Jan '16 2:34:24 PM by Khfan429