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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
While (thankfully) they almost certainly won't introduce those elements, I keep thinking it would be funny for Tony to make a Breathless Non Sequitur about shooting Banner into space and/or cloning Thor.
edited 21st Jan '16 10:28:42 AM by Hodor2
The only thing that bugs me about the nature of the conflict in the film is how the Accords seem to be based solely on the Avengers and their actions. I was hoping this would be the point where the movies expand the "world of superpowers" situation beyond just the main characters.
But since the plot that's being built out of it still looks amazing, I'm more or less over it.
Its already massively improved by not having Mark Millar on the project.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI just realized that the Hulk is NOT going to be in this film but WILL be in Thor: Ragnarok.
They kind of did shoot him into space.
And yet, hers was easily the best of the Pro-Reg books.
But since the plot that's being built out of it still looks amazing, I'm more or less over it.
That's basically the opposite complaint from the comic.
A common criticism of the comic's Civil War is that making it a blanket registration act for all Superhumans was a huge writing misstep that made the Pro-Reg side completely unconscionable. A Superhero Registration, serving as an oversight to superhero activities, would have worked better as an arguing point.
Which is effectively what the Accords are, if a little too specialized.
edited 21st Jan '16 10:50:42 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Why should the accords only be based on the Avengers? They already hinted in Ant-man that more and more superpowered people are turning up. And in Ao S President Ellis even made a speech about this danger.
Because the Avengers are the only ones invading other countries and stuff. The Avengers are basically the only superhero team in existence at the moment, so the government wants to get some controls into place.
I mean, this doesn't mean there won't be legislation about superhumans, but the Sokovia Accords are specifically about the Avengers, regulating when and where the Avengers can act.
The conflict in Civil War is basically about turning the Avengers into something official rather than private, like SHIELD was supposed to be, right when a situation pops up where Cap has to do make a To Be Lawful or Good choice that wouldn't have been a problem otherwise.
It's a "rein in the Cowboy Cops" plot. From what we've seen of the Accords, there's nothing in there about anyone who's not an Avenger.
It seems they're leaving the "superpowers or superheroes are becoming a thing in society, which governments are trying to react to" stuff to the tv shows.
edited 21st Jan '16 11:51:29 AM by KnownUnknown
Thus far, outside the Avengers, there's:
- Dare Devil, who is a vigilante.
- Spiderman, who is a vigilante.
- Ant Man, who is a thief.
- Jessica Jones, who is a private investigator.
- Luke Cage, who is a bartender.
The first three are already covered by the law. Jessica and Luke haven't participated in overt public superheroics at this time. None of the above have, as noted, invaded a foreign country or built a murder robot or smashed a city.
edited 21st Jan '16 11:52:20 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Yeah. We're already seeing the PR disaster of the Inhuman issue in the show.
On the kind of international scale that the films like to operate, the government shouldn't care about a person who has the ability to talk to fish or something unless that person is using fish to commit crimes. What they absolutely should care about is private citizens blowing up cities on both domestic and foreign soil.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.In essence, the Accords are happening because the governments are getting tired of the rogue activity of the Avengers.
They care about Thor, not because he has a sweet hammer and can summon lightning, but because of that time when an alien warship crashed into London and the only answer anyone got was Thor shrugging his shoulders and going, "Eh, y'know, Svartalfheim!" and then flying off to bang his hot girlfriend.
They care about Iron Man, not because he built a neat suit of armor - although whether or not that should be classified as unlawful military hardware was certainly a point of contention in IM 2 - but because a private citizen keeps shooting missiles at foreign countries and building murder-robots.
They care about Captain America, not because he has a neat serum floating in his blood, but because he personally dismantled an international peacekeeping organization under his own self-proclaimed authority and then leaked shitloads of classified information to the web where anyone could find it. They actually court-martialed Widow over that.
The Accords aren't about what the Avengers are, but about the international community growing discontent with what they keep doing. They don't want the Avengers to not save the world, of course, but they want to be kept in the loop of what is happening and why - and maybe have a vote the next time Tony Stark wants to build Planet-Killotron 3.0 or Captain America decides the CIA should go.
edited 21st Jan '16 12:08:07 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.From what was released about the Accords
◊ it is indeed just about the Avengers or former Avengers (Hawkeye and Iron Man are listed).

Civil War was a complete mess, which is why I got nervous when I heard that the third Cap movie was going to be based on it. I think that Ben Grimm had the best idea: "Screw you guys, you're both stupid. I'm going to Paris. Never mind, I'm back because SOMEBODY'S gotta protect civilians while you guys are beating each other up."