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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#49851: Jan 20th 2016 at 4:30:57 PM

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Not so much a comment about the Whedons' politics, more that Jed has more say on what happens in AOS than his brother for good or ill. Dude got made into a boogeyman for just about everything including Triplett's death when AOU came out, even though I don't think he has any say over the show anymore.

edited 20th Jan '16 4:33:32 PM by AlleyOop

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#49852: Jan 20th 2016 at 4:46:45 PM

Joss Whedon basically created Agents of SHIELD to justify hiring all his friends and family and pissed off after the pilot.

I'm trying not to say that like it's a bad thing.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#49853: Jan 20th 2016 at 4:57:45 PM

Did Whedon even create AOS or was it his brother Jed and his wife Maurissa Tacharoen? Since those two are the actual showrunners.

edited 20th Jan '16 4:58:03 PM by higherbrainpattern

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#49855: Jan 20th 2016 at 5:15:04 PM

According to here, Joss created Agents of SHIELD but left after it became clear Marvel preferred he work on Avengers 2 instead.

“They didn’t actually want me to make it,” said Whedon. “It’s like, ‘Uh, Joss, we really wanted you to do [Age of Ultron]. Instead you created a TV show, you moron.’ ‘I thought you wanted me to!’ ‘No, we just wanted you to make a movie.’ ‘Oh. My bad.’ … It went from being absolutely 100% the driving force and totally hands-on to ‘That sounds great, Jed! You should do that!’”

edited 20th Jan '16 5:15:38 PM by Tuckerscreator

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49856: Jan 20th 2016 at 5:47:09 PM

That '22 marvel characters ready for the big screen' article really high lights how little diversity is left in the MARVEL IP.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49857: Jan 20th 2016 at 6:29:31 PM

The article was just kind of delusional in general. We are definitely not getting Spider-Woman in Captain Marvel and we sure as hell aren't getting a Wonder Man movie.

It's like he's just going "The movies should cram in as many heroes as possible" regardless of whether or not they make sense or would make the movie too crowded. I also assume a She-Hulk movie can't happen for the same reason a Hulk one can't.

edited 20th Jan '16 6:29:50 PM by comicwriter

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49858: Jan 20th 2016 at 6:42:52 PM

I think would be fine, the issue is that universal gets first dibs on distributing any film marvel makes they intend to brand as a hulk movie.

So if she hulk is the protagonist, not Bruce, it might be okay.

Regardless there would be no issue at all with her getting a tv series.

If the deadpool movie works I'd be happy for a squirrel girl film. Though I think blade and Kamala khan are the next properties I'd like to see get a film.

It bugs me how few viable female characters there are to adapt.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49859: Jan 20th 2016 at 6:43:29 PM

These deals are typically by mythos, not by specific character.

But yeah, there would be no issue with a She-Hulk tv show.

edited 20th Jan '16 6:49:24 PM by KnownUnknown

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#49860: Jan 20th 2016 at 6:48:41 PM

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...and we sure as hell aren't getting a Wonder Man movie.

Which makes me sad. Sort of. I don't actually want him to get his own movie if only because I don't think he can support one, but there's still a part of me that wants him to at least show up in the MCU, if only so that more people actually know he exists. I like the guy, and he was a mainstay Avenger for a while to boot, so he at least deserves more than he's getting right now. (And I also want him to show up just because he's almost guaranteed not to show up at all. Same reason a part of me wants D-Man to show up, actually.tongue)

edited 20th Jan '16 6:57:09 PM by kkhohoho

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49861: Jan 20th 2016 at 6:54:49 PM

Oh I have nothing against Wonder Man or the prospect of him showing up. Just that him thinking Wonder Man would get his own movie or TV show and saying it as though there's no way Wonder Man could have been ignored this long is what struck me as weird.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49862: Jan 20th 2016 at 7:31:49 PM

Joss Whedon basically created Agents of SHIELD to justify hiring all his friends and family and pissed off after the pilot.
...to make Avengers: Age of Ultron. He left after the pilot because he was contracted to make a movie. I mean, you're are saying it like it's a bad thing, when, really, there was nothing else he could do.

Unless you are specifically saying that he shouldn't have created Agents of SHIELD.

edited 20th Jan '16 7:32:20 PM by alliterator

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#49863: Jan 20th 2016 at 7:48:23 PM

I mean, if I somehow found myself in a position where an entity as big as Marvel wanted me to be one of their lead guys, I would totally create a project for the sole purpose of employing all my friends.

Hell, that's how Jim Henson operated towards the end of his career. He basically multitasked himself to death trying to employ everyone he knew. It's why late-80s Henson Company was doing so much.

But I realize how it could sound, like, y'know. Nepotism and cronyism. In fairness to both Whedon and Henson, they know a lot of really talented people, but never the less, I recognize that "he made a thing to give his friends jobs" sounds kinda crappy.

So when I say I'm trying not to say it like it's a bad thing, I really, genuinely mean that. It sounds bad, but I think it's great.

edited 20th Jan '16 7:50:04 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#49864: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:12:32 PM

Apologies for my Whedon ranting. That and some of the things in Legend of Korra have a tendency to make me sound like a Tumblr SJW, and that's never a good look. In both cases, I tend to read the authors as being "South Park Republicans" and that colors my views of them/understanding of character and narrative choices.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#49866: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:19:47 PM

[up][up] They're way more to the left than that. South Park Republicans are more like socially center-to-left libertarians. While the Whedons seem more like mainline liberals.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49867: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:19:53 PM

Maybe they didn't want a Black Widow toy because she doesn't wear a mask and evidently, they can't do toys with faces well.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#49868: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:19:58 PM

Do you think that's accurate to the movie that (based on the toy) (spoiler just in case) Bucky and/or Cap wears some kind of battle suit? Guessing not, but would be interesting.

Also, from one of the toys, looks like Falcon wearing more of his comic colors (lots of red) versus his look in the MCU, which oddly looks more like his Captain America costume.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#49869: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:22:08 PM

...Can people stop using the term "SJW".

Like. It's really annoying to have people with feminist or social justice leanings being lumped under a negative umbrella.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49870: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:36:16 PM

[up][up]Which Falcon fig?

And the Winter Soldier's armor is probably non-canon. Hasbro did the same thing for the new Star Wars, where they gave all the figures of that scale weird cybernetic battle armor that doesn't show up in the film.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#49871: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:40:48 PM

Not sure if link will work, but the image here.

Taking another look, seems like probably the same kind of non-canon armor thing done with other characters.

edited 20th Jan '16 8:42:51 PM by Hodor2

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#49872: Jan 20th 2016 at 9:05:50 PM

Oh man, that Falcon looks hilarious. Probably too much work to color it in a way that doesn't look so goofy.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#49873: Jan 20th 2016 at 10:18:21 PM

[up]Agreed. It is hilarious. It almost looks like he's wearing a toddler's snowsuit or something. The kind that are really big and poofy and don't allow much in the way of movement.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible

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