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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
To each their own. I loved Killian. I thought he was fantastic and a flawless adaptation of the Mandarin.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Ultron is 7 Bajillion percent Uncanny Valley, which is what makes him so good of a villain.
I do like Ultron.
If I had the focus to list things in a list form, he'd be in the upper half of said list.
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But the rest of the movie, he is just a tony stark evil counterpart(because that is what we need it, ANOTHER evil tony stark) who dosent manage to pull his weight as villian.
Iron monger vs Iron man is by far one of the best fight in the MCU(with Antman vs yellowjacket and Bucky vs Cap) so I will give them that.
edited 19th Jan '16 11:09:11 AM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Seeing Jeff Bridges play a hard-hearted corporate megalomaniac was all kinds of incredible.
Honestly, Christopher Eccleston and Lee Pace playing deep-throated stoics should've offered the same opertunity for hilarious contrast. Not sure what happened there.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.I'm still sort of sad they didn't leave even a splinter of Ultron alive for a movie a decade or more from now and had to have a "this is the final Ultron drone and he has no way to get out of it and is locked away from the internet" talk.
There's almost the exact same set up in a Avengers story(the one with Ultron taking over Tony's armor and transforming his body into a copy of Janet since "she's perfect")with the Avengers thinking they've finally finished Ultron off with a virus and stopped him from fleeing to another body but the story ends with Ultron's head flashing on a computer on the crashed helicarrier(that it hacked before)before disappearing.
A while later a robotic enemy race quickly takes over the Kree empire and erects a barrier to stop other empires from helping the Kree. After the Nova, Ronan/Gamora, Phyla/Moondragon books reach their final issues before the main book starts this is the cliffhanger on the leader of the enemies.
◊ The main issue then shows how good Ultron is at hacking.
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edited 19th Jan '16 12:07:08 PM by LordofLore
It wasn't worth leaving a loose end for people to complain about
If they want to bring back Ultron, they will. He's been brought back from sillier before, in the comics.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAs Bocaj said, it wasn't worth the loose end. Writing the films isn't like writing the comics. There's no guarantee of an infinite number of future installments to leave plot points open for.
How many people are still waiting to see that follow-up movie with the Leader?
What about "the True Mandarin" from All Hail the King? Do you think we'll be seeing Iron Man 4 in Phase 4 or 5? Are we talking another ten years before anything comes of that? Twenty? Maybe it just never will.
edited 19th Jan '16 11:56:47 AM by TobiasDrake
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I would be open to the true mandarin being a black Panther villain, but really I'm happy to have him be an unseen figure in the background.
Ronan was so good, I'm really against the script killing him off, but I guess there's endless possibilities for bringing him back when it comes to the Cosmic.
Darren Cross still surprises me with how interesting a character he is, I'd be happy for him to take a dark rein role.
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YES please tell me the MCU is at the point where giant robots can turn up with no explanation.
edited 19th Jan '16 12:53:00 PM by Whowho
Well regarding Ronan, the GOTG cartoon does bring him back. Or rather, Nebula does.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI think its just a suspiciously similar universe
But Korath is alive and one of the Thanos sibs with Nebula and Gamora
And Cosmo speaks and is head of security for Knowhere
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThe two TV Big Bads are definitely head and shoulders above ANY of the big screen big bads of the MCU. Not coincidentally, this is largely because a 13 hour season gives time to actually develop them as characters instead of just 'punched out to seal victory' material.
Of the screen villains, Pierce is probably the best although really he's not actually that much more complex than any of the others. It's just Robert Redford being so goddamn awesome it makes him seem a whole lot more interesting and fresh than he really is.
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I agree with that. In the wrong hands he could've ended up just another Obadiah Stane clone, but Redford gives him a whole ton of personality and believability even if it's clear he'll turn out to be the bad guy. Some of his expressions are pretty amusing on a rewatch, such as his "yeah, I'm the head of Hydra" shrug or how he sneaks a second peek at Fury's bad eye.
A lot of what makes Pierce work is his conviction in his own righteousness. He's the hero of his own story and that makes him feel more three-dimensional. It's easy to see that he is 100% convinced that his course of action is the right one.
This same conviction of belief and goal is what made Loki so fascinating. It's what put Ronan so far above Malekith despite basically being the exact same goddamn character.
I suspect it's why people were so let down by Killian. I love the bastard, but the fact is, Fake!Mandarin was an ugly ethnic stereotype but there was a righteousness to his ideals that had a lot of people wanting to see him played straight, while Killian was unashamedly a greedy, amoral opportunist.
People like to see villains who genuinely believe in what they're doing.
Both Fisk and Kilgrave have that righteousness. They may be a crime lord and a serial rapist, but damn if they don't act like they piss gold.
edited 19th Jan '16 2:18:44 PM by TobiasDrake
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at the risk of bringing back this discussion again, the twist behind the mandarin was fine, but killian himself is just as underwhelming as most of the other MCU villains.
i should also probably finish daredevil and start jessica jones sometime, though that won't be for a while i think.
edited 19th Jan '16 11:01:12 AM by wehrmacht