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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#49577: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:26:12 AM

Just waiting for someone to say the obligatory "Ant-Man is there, you just can't see him" joke.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#49578: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:42:27 AM

Must be an early one. There's too little orange and blue. The floating people/photoshop syndrome is still strong though. Reminds me way too much of the cover for Civil War 2 which instantly makes me mad because BEEEEENNNNDDDIIIISSS.

edited 18th Jan '16 8:55:33 AM by LordofLore

jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#49579: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:53:00 AM

[up][up] Ant-Man is there, you just can't see him.

edited 18th Jan '16 8:53:45 AM by jdj42

The world will look up and shout "Save us", and I'll look down and whisper "Too bad, Waluigi Time" Vote Loki 2016
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#49580: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:01:11 AM

Ant-Man is too big to be seen.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#49581: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:36:34 AM

Ant-Man is holding the camera.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49582: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:38:06 AM

That's almost a little too on the money with the mirroring.

It blows my mind that there are currently five active avengers who can fly.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49583: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:42:40 AM

[up][up]They're fighting on top of Ant-Man.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#49584: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:48:39 AM

Doooooon't get me started on Lucy...

My various fanfics.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49585: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:21:53 AM

I'm happy to see Wanda actually included on a poster.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#49586: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:45:29 AM

And she isn't struggling to be noticed!

edited 18th Jan '16 11:14:17 AM by VeryMelon

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#49587: Jan 18th 2016 at 11:14:00 AM

[up]Since when does Wanda have a senpai?

edited 18th Jan '16 11:51:51 AM by nervmeister

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#49588: Jan 18th 2016 at 11:30:11 AM

The audience is her senpai.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#49589: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:27:17 PM

Ok, just one think....

Im the only one so things Wanda get away with all the bad stuff she did? I meant barton have excuse or explanation he was brainwashed by Loki and mind gem, but Wanda was very willing to fuck uo everything and yet she get to stay in the team.....

I mean, I dont want her to die or everything, just to play the atoner because otherwise would look like a Karma houdini.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#49590: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:29:23 PM

Did Wanda really do anything she needs to atone for? Like. She signed on to destroy Tony Stark and the Avengers, which I really can't blame her for all things considered. She switched sides once she found out Ultron was gonna...er...do whatever popped into his head at any given time, really, which may or may not involve an extinction-level event involving throwing her hometown at the Earth.

I guess you could argue the Hulk rampage is on her, but we don't really know exactly what she put in Bruce's head, only that it made him Hulk out. I think the plan was to get him to attack his teammates.

edited 18th Jan '16 1:30:15 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#49591: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:30:30 PM

She set Hulk onto a city full of innocent people. That's the major thing.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49592: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:32:34 PM

She didn't "set" Hulk on anything - she gave him hallucinations, just like she gave the rest of the Avengers hallucinations. And the rest of the Avengers stayed put, so she might have thought the Hulk was going to do the same, but he didn't.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#49593: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:33:42 PM

Still, even then she's indirectly responsible for a lot of people dying. While it may not be a Moral Event Horizon, it's still someething she definitely should try making amends.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49594: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:33:43 PM

Messing around with Bruce Banner at all is massively irresponsible. Unless she was certain there was no risk of him killing innocents, she shouldn't have attempted what ever she attempted.

I'm kind of hoping her character arc addresses this in some way. You'd think the Skovian Accords and Black Panther would come down on her pretty heavy, but at the same time, you don't want Civil War to be too dependent on the events of the Avengers film.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49595: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:37:25 PM

Still, even then she's indirectly responsible for a lot of people dying.
We don't know how many people died or even if any people died. Certainly, we don't see any bodies.

While it may not be a Moral Event Horizon, it's still something she definitely should try making amends.
She is trying to atone...by joining the Avengers.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49596: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:37:41 PM

Her Freudian Excuse was very flimsy to begin with. Even if she honestly believed that Tony Stark murdered her family by virtue of having sold bombs, the other Avengers weren't involved in that and were obviously doing good work to help people.

She basically decided everyone needed to die because of the actions of one guy.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49597: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:38:25 PM

I said it before. The best possible outcome is her joining the Avengers. There's no reliable way to imprison her so they might as well put her powers to good use. It also lets the Avengers keep an eye on her.

[up]When did she decide everyone needed to die? As soon as she realized that was Ultron's plan she turned on him.

edited 18th Jan '16 1:42:19 PM by Kostya

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49598: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:41:26 PM

By everyone I mean the Avengers.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#49599: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:41:38 PM

[up][up][up][up] Come on, man, we see buildings levelled and people clearly caught in the blast radius. Okay, fine, if somehow by God's divine intervention not a single creature died during the entire fight, Wanda should still be making amends for hurting a few hundred people and putting them in mortal danger.

edited 18th Jan '16 1:41:51 PM by Gaon

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49600: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:43:24 PM

[up]She is making amends by joining the Avengers and using her powers to save people.


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