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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49551: Jan 17th 2016 at 9:40:54 PM

Hey, at least Richards is helping rebuild the multiverse. Doom, meanwhile, was content to keep everyone on his own patchwork planet.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#49552: Jan 17th 2016 at 9:50:00 PM

Doom's campaign slogan is just: "RIIIICHAAAARRRDDDDSSS!!!" He already has substantial backing.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49553: Jan 17th 2016 at 9:51:20 PM

edited 17th Jan '16 9:53:12 PM by alliterator

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49554: Jan 17th 2016 at 9:52:02 PM

[up][up]Both from Latverian "Expatriates" and recent Latverian arrivals.

And from the supervillain community at large.

And from pretty much everybody who doesn't like Reed Richards. Or anyone associated with him.

You should see the sucking up the Daily Bugle runs about him.

edited 17th Jan '16 9:53:18 PM by ultimatepheer

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#49555: Jan 17th 2016 at 9:55:46 PM

Hey, you guys know how it took a while before Daredevil finally got his red suit in Daredevil season 1?

Same thing's happening to Elektra.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#49556: Jan 17th 2016 at 9:57:20 PM

I don't know if that article knows what organically means

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#49557: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:01:17 PM

So it will be made of carbon-based material derived from lifeforms?

edited 17th Jan '16 10:01:56 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49558: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:06:51 PM

"We love the comics - we're fans - but, we wanted Elektra's costume to be reasonable for a martial artist and she's also a little bit of a stylist," he told a group of reporters, including our own Ashley Robinson.
I'm perfectly fine with this because, honestly, Elektra's normal costume looks kind of like a bathing suit with a few extra sashes.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#49559: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:10:50 PM

I kind of love that most other pop mediums take one look at women's comic book outfits and go "oh my god the fuck is wrong with you."

Kinda wish comic books were one of those mediums, but.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49560: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:15:30 PM

Comic books are getting there, even if it is slowly. I mean, Spider-Woman went from this to this and Carol Danvers went from this to this. Even Red Sonja now looks like this (and Vampirella, whose costume was held together with string and hope, will soon look like this and Dejah Thoris, who was pretty much nude, looks like this).

edited 17th Jan '16 10:18:54 PM by alliterator

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#49561: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:18:10 PM

As long as they have a solo book they usually have sensible designs nowadays.

Edit:[nja]

edited 17th Jan '16 10:18:23 PM by LordofLore

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49562: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:21:18 PM

[up] Actually, Elektra did have a solo book last year with some gorgeous art by Mike del Mundo, but it didn't really sell well. Perhaps she could do with a redesign?

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#49563: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:28:40 PM

I just remembered, yeah. I think both it and She Hulk were cancelled after their first story arcs were finished due to bad sales. No one really cared for it IIRC but people were pissed She Hulk got cancelled.

An alternate Elektra just showed up in Contest of Champions by the way.

I always thought Elektra would work well in a Secret Six/Birds of prey-esque book about female villains(former or not)trying to be good(or some other reason for them to come together like a program Cap started or something). Could have Elektra, Black Cat and some others working together with someone like Diamondback or Mockingbird as the supervisor.

edited 17th Jan '16 10:43:51 PM by LordofLore

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49564: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:40:06 PM

Yes and she calls herself Bullseye - it's pretty awesome. (To be honest, I'm not really sorry the Elektra book was cancelled, because while the art was awesome, the story was only okay. And Mike del Mundo is doing so much more with the current Weirdworld book, which is simply amazing all around.)

I always thought Elektra would work well in a Secret Six/Birds of prey-esque book about female villains(former or not)trying to be good(or some other reason for them to come together like a program Cap started or something). Could have Elektra, Black Cat and some others working together with someone like Diamondback or Mockingbird as the supervisor.
Actually, Elektra might work well with the Thunderbolts - she was part of the last version, a team of anti-heroes (as opposed to straight up villains or villains trying to go straight).

edited 17th Jan '16 10:42:21 PM by alliterator

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#49565: Jan 17th 2016 at 10:43:08 PM

It's pretty cool.

I'm not really sorry to see the book go either. The last Black Widow book also had great art but the story sucked and the writer is apparently a huge asshole so I'm glad that book at least is getting a chance with a new creative team.

Didn't the last Thunderbolts book suck? I recall people having huge problems with it and the Punisher book.

edited 17th Jan '16 10:57:06 PM by LordofLore

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49566: Jan 17th 2016 at 11:01:57 PM

Didn't the last Thunderbolts book suck? I recall people having huge problems with it and the Punisher book.
Once Charles Soule took over from the previous writer on Thunderbolts, it became much, much better. But the sales were still bad, so it was cancelled. The Punisher, on the other hand, I heard ranged from "okay" to "terrible," with the last plotline barely making any sense and basically being "Frank Castle kills Middle-Eastern terrorists because." I am so glad that the next Punisher book is being written by Becky Cloonan (who did the very awesome Southern Cross).

edited 17th Jan '16 11:03:24 PM by alliterator

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#49567: Jan 17th 2016 at 11:11:03 PM

So is Thunderbolt Ross ever involved with the Thunderbolts?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#49568: Jan 17th 2016 at 11:24:10 PM

Doom blames THE ACCURSED RICHARDS every time he can't get an erection.

My various fanfics.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#49570: Jan 17th 2016 at 11:35:15 PM

But angrily yelling Richards' name is what gives him erections.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49571: Jan 17th 2016 at 11:37:20 PM

So is Thunderbolt Ross ever involved with the Thunderbolts?
Yep, during the last run, Ross was actually the person who brought the Thunderbolts together.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#49572: Jan 17th 2016 at 11:39:44 PM

[up][up]Well, yeah. Doom can't get an erection, then he blames Richards, then he gets an erection. What's confusing?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#49574: Jan 18th 2016 at 2:00:13 AM

[up][up] And if that doesn't work, what will he do? That's right...

Oh God! Natural light!
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#49575: Jan 18th 2016 at 7:54:01 AM

Well I saw Lucy, a sci fi/bordeline superhero movie with Scarlet johnanson and.....dear good, THAT is the Black widow movie I want about, it was shooting ,and action but a distintive sci fi feel that maker her unique, good damn Marvel what are you wating for!

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

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