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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49401: Jan 14th 2016 at 8:48:32 PM

But the giant ant asphyxiating would have been tragic! I much preferred that it was like a big dog.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#49402: Jan 14th 2016 at 8:52:28 PM

The air thing seems to have been retconned out by the movie itself. The issue with the helmets seems to be protection from the Pym Particle's radiation messing with your brain. An ant acting like a dog seems very unusual if its brain is working fine.

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#49403: Jan 14th 2016 at 9:49:10 PM

[up]wild mass guessThe kid has an unrealized mutant power to control insects. Boom.wild mass guess[lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49404: Jan 14th 2016 at 9:59:43 PM

Well she is a budding Nightmare Fetishist.

It's quite possible she'll grow up to control bug monsters for the good of humanity. And terrifying rabbit dolls.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#49405: Jan 14th 2016 at 11:09:55 PM

Besides its respiratory system being too big to process puny oxygen atoms, there's also the issue of quantity of oxygen.

There's a reason why prehistoric bugs were gigantic but went extinct; the ambient oxygen levels in the atmosphere decreased, and bugs need a lot of oxygen.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#49406: Jan 14th 2016 at 11:41:05 PM

That's why if you increase the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere, the outcome is GIANT BUGS!

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49407: Jan 14th 2016 at 11:46:15 PM

I thought it was spontaneous combustion.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#49408: Jan 15th 2016 at 7:47:51 AM

GIANT BUGS THAT SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST!

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49409: Jan 15th 2016 at 8:17:01 AM

[up]Just baaaaack it up.

Regarding that Spider Man hoodie thing

So according to the company (Merchoid) who made it, Marvel helped them design it, but Merchoid doesn't actually know what the costume will look like.

edited 15th Jan '16 8:21:57 AM by edvedd

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#49410: Jan 15th 2016 at 12:10:41 PM

So I rewatched Ant-Man.

In hindsight, it's got a similar problem to Thor 2, in that it's hesitant to play up the amazing goofiness of its premise until the last twenty minutes or so.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49412: Jan 15th 2016 at 12:17:31 PM

If and when Cassie becomes Stature way in the future, her riding into battle with a legion of giant ants would be awesome.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#49413: Jan 15th 2016 at 12:20:08 PM

The whole movie seemed gloriously goofy as I recall

Although it certainly ramps it up at the last minute.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#49414: Jan 15th 2016 at 12:29:17 PM

Meh, the movie really play goofy, having just three drama moment if I recall.

I meant if we could do a scale between Seriousness and goodfinest, in one extreme we have Winter soldier(the grittiest movie in MCU so far) and in the other would be Guardian of the galaxy, Antman belong to the latter.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#49416: Jan 16th 2016 at 10:31:55 AM

I'm noticing a distinct lack of sources, thank god, because I dunno if my Marvel completionism could withstand a fucking Punisher series. Like, I'm just BARELY okay with dumping him in Daredevil.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#49417: Jan 16th 2016 at 10:32:51 AM

So the rumor about Iron Fist being delayed in favor of a Punisher series might be true?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49418: Jan 16th 2016 at 10:37:18 AM

I'm pretty sure that was debunked. [up][up]Then don't watch it. It's as simple as that.

edited 16th Jan '16 10:38:00 AM by comicwriter

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#49419: Jan 16th 2016 at 10:40:09 AM

Holy shit a Punisher spin-off! Here we go!

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49420: Jan 16th 2016 at 1:36:30 PM

I'm tempted to make a drawn out booing sound. I'm really not fond of the character. He can work as a supporting character, but, I don't think he can function as a protagonist within a narrative I'd enjoy.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#49423: Jan 16th 2016 at 2:24:26 PM

Disagree, Punisher is awesome.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#49424: Jan 16th 2016 at 2:28:38 PM

I'd say the best move is to reserve judgement until we see how the MCU Punisher is handled. Depending on the precise interpretation of the character used and where the character lands at the end of the Daredevil Season 2, it could be that a Punisher show not only could make sense but is the obvious route forward.

Having said that, until Jeff Lobe or someone else with the authority to speak on Marvel's behalf says they are developing a Punisher series, I'm going to assume they are not. Or at least, I'm going to assume that any such project has yet to receive the green light and only exists if they have space to add a new series post-Defenders and the character is well-received in Daredevil.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49425: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:45:10 PM

I wonder what exactly I would prefer in the place of a punisher movie.

She Hulk would be my obvious answer. There's a story there about a woman being disfigured that you don't get to tell in media normally, it would mean two shows about defence lawyers, but, that wouldn't be the focus of a She Hulk show for me.

Blade could work on a TV level for me, it would be ambitious and I expect Blade is being kept for a film, but it's a possibility.

Cloak and Dagger, yes, yum. Run away teenagers caught in the super hero drug trade, yes.

I'm overly optimistic about a hypothetical Moonknight Netflix show, on the condition that they give him a formal diagnosis (a non egyptian goddess induced one) and give that issue the attention it's due. (Dissociation is a common symptom to a lot of personality disorders, and yet there's no real media taking a sober look at what that's like) But I can see lots of ways it could go wrong.

Runaways would be grand, but I don't think Marvel would give that team to Netflix; it's a different sort of show.

HELL CAT HELL CAT HELL CAT HELL CAT hasn't been formally introduced yet, but sure. Like wise Misty Knight's Heroes for Hire.

I'm yet to find a take on Elecktra I would enjoy, but I think her being the protagonist would remedy most of my problems with her.

Okay yeah, Punisher is below all of these for me, but it's not like him getting a series before anyone else is offensive to me. I think?


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