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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#49151: Jan 12th 2016 at 7:56:53 AM

Yeah, I've been wondering about Captain Marvel too. Especially since I don't know that many actresses so whatever they do will be a surprise for me.

I just wish they had sort of had her decided on earlier because I can see plenty of spaces where Carol could have fit in as a supporting role before eventually getting her own movie. First place I thought of was another friend Steve could've made in the 21st century and possible ally in Winter Soldier. One of Rhodey's co-workers since I think they're both in the Air Force. Having her just around as second in command would have been enough similar to what they did with Coulson for those first few movies.

Next place? Another associate at the Avengers base in Age of Ultron. Hell, could've been the Helicarrier's pilot.

The casting suspense for both Carol and Danny are killing me.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#49152: Jan 12th 2016 at 7:59:58 AM

Wasn't there a plan for Carol to appear in Age of Ultron initially?

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#49153: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:09:04 AM

I recall there being discussion but I do not recall if that was genuine talks or a rumor.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#49154: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:15:04 AM

Ugh. Don't talk about Danny. I need Kung-fu Marvel yesterday, but it's still months and months away. I need to just forget it's gonna happen until, like, July.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#49155: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:31:10 AM

*contines to wave old picket sign that reads "Charlie Hunnam for Danny Rand*

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49156: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:43:37 AM

Wasn't there a plan for Carol to appear in Age of Ultron initially?

Yes she was going to be revealed as part of the New Avengers, but then someone pointed out that nobody in the audience would know who she was.

The scene where Wanda floats in her new costume was originally shot for Captain Marvel.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49158: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:10:32 AM

Makes sense. There's no Hulk for him to counter as Red Hulk. Him as the Inspector Javert to the Avengers, patsy of the real Big Bad, makes a lot of sense.

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#49159: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:12:42 AM

I prefer Ross like that.

The thing that never sat right with me about the Red Hulk arc is the massive amounts of treason that Ross had to commit in order for it to come about. I like Ross better as a jingoist military extremist doing what he thinks is right for America's interests than a power-hungry traitor trying to put himself in the President's seat.

edited 12th Jan '16 9:13:31 AM by TobiasDrake

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#49160: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:13:45 AM

This also means no Red Hulk ever, since he only makes sense as a Hulk villain and there's no way Ross can show up as him in one of the tv shows.

Perfect.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49161: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:32:22 AM

They basically use Talbot for what Ross is in the movies in AOS anyway.

They could do a Hulk show one of these days (or better yet, a She-Hulk one), should they get the budget for it.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49162: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:35:18 AM

I think the CGI for that would be too expensive.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49163: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:38:59 AM

I'd laugh if She-Hulk was a Courtroom Drama with just a giant green rage lawyer.

edited 12th Jan '16 9:39:11 AM by ultimatepheer

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#49164: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:41:40 AM

The entire point of Shulkie is that she isn't filled with rage.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49165: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:43:24 AM

She Hulk probably works better as a TV show anyway. You just need good makeup to depict her.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49166: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:46:29 AM

[up][up]I half expect Tony to describe her as that if they ever meet.

Just have Tony describe all the hulks as Giant Green Rage [x].

Even the ones that aren't green.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#49167: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:57:25 AM

I really miss Talbot in the current season of Ao S. I get that there is really no room for him in the current arc, but I hope he is not gone for good.

While I am curious about Captain Marvel, I have the feeling that it is a good thing that she is a "late-comer" so to speak. Because, let's face it, currently the audience is still focussed on the six main avengers and the new team is more an extension of them than anything else. They haven't really been embraced yet - as characters, yes, but not as the new team. But after infinity war, there will be a lot of room to shine. Captain Marvel might even become the new leader of the Avengers, depending on who is still part of the team.

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#49168: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:11:13 AM

This might be a bit cynical of me, but with the first female lead only coming after twenty films, I highly doubt Marvel Studios is going to let a woman lead a team.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#49169: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:18:27 AM

[up]They have no problem with it in TV.

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#49172: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:28:21 AM

The Phase 4 Avengers films aren't going to be TV shows. They're going to be made by the guys who make the movies, not the guys who make the shows.

edited 12th Jan '16 10:28:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#49173: Jan 12th 2016 at 11:08:05 AM

On the other hand, she's got the word "Marvel" in her name, so having her lead the team makes sense from a branding perspective.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#49174: Jan 12th 2016 at 11:09:30 AM

[up]x4 I remember an interview from some time ago that Agent Carter would deal with darkforce in Season 2, so this isn't too surprising. This is just the first I've heard it explicitly described as a Doctor Strange tie-in.

....I wonder if we'll have an Ancient One cameo. Or if that's not feasible, maybe someone who was trained by the Ancient One decades prior to Stephen Strange.

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#49175: Jan 12th 2016 at 11:14:14 AM

No. We're not going to gloss over Juan Punch Man like it never happened, that was damn funny.

Also, what's the known line-up of Phase 4? Do we even know any of it?


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