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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49001: Jan 9th 2016 at 7:52:09 AM

It is presumably the former since they made a big deal of saying Marvel won't let them show it to the public yet.

If it were just a Spider-Man pattern I don't think it'd be a big deal. I think everyone assumes yes, he will be wearing a red costume with a spider symbol on it.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49002: Jan 9th 2016 at 9:03:59 AM

Despite Gunn's claims to the contrary the Russos do seem to basically confirm the Guardians will be in Infinity War. Obvious news is obvious.

When asked if they’ve had any talks of including the Guardians in Infinity War, Joe Russo responded, “That is another one that we would have to reserve as a surprise, but we will say this: People will not be disappointed in the amount of characters in the movie. The concept of Infinity War is that the Marvel universe unites to battle the greatest threat to the world and universe that you’ve ever seen, and we’re going to honor that concept.”

And they talk a bit about the fallout of Civil War.

hen we asked what impact Captain America: Civil War is going to have on the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Joe Russo replied, “It's going to be more evolved than it ever has been with in any of the films. Winter Soldier created a seismic shift in terms of the world of the Marvel Universe. This is going to create a seismic shift in the psychology of the character which is more profound. It's a very profound shift.”

Joe Russo added, “For us, we really are firm believers in stakes. We like movies with high highs and low lows and we just feel like you get a more well-rounded experience in that type of film. Now that we’re engaged in serialized storytelling, it starts with Winter Soldier and ends with the Infinity War movies. We feel it's very important that those four films, Civil War, and both Infinity War movies, have a very profound effect on the audience. I think a lot of shocking things are going to happen, which is really interesting because you haven't had this kind of... maybe other than Harry Potter, I guess you can count the Bond series… but the kind of investment over a period of time with this many characters behaving in a universe. I think our job is to send you on a very profound experience between now and 2019 and it starts with Civil War. I don't know if people will be prepared for what this movie is going to include.”

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49003: Jan 9th 2016 at 9:11:24 AM

Didn't Gunn only say that Guardians 2 wouldn't be connected to Infinity War, not that the Guardians themselves wouldn't be in Infinity War?

edited 9th Jan '16 9:12:52 AM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49004: Jan 9th 2016 at 9:15:46 AM

And there is one other surprising detail:

"It's a big movie and it includes a lot of characters," said Joe Russo. "I think that a lot of them have really interesting arcs. I think Spider-Man in particular has a really fascinating arc."

Anthony Russo replied, "Certainly Black Panther, who we introduce. Similarly there, introducing a character gives you a great opportunity to take them on a ride, you know?"

"Vision goes on a journey, as well," added Joe Russo.

I was not expecting anything very relevant to the Vision in this movie.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49005: Jan 9th 2016 at 9:19:23 AM

I figured there'd be some kind of plot for him. Thanos has to pretty much rip out his brain in order to finish stage one, but since he's likely going to still be among the ranks fighting when everything comes to a head there's probably going to be some kind of self-improvement arc somewhere in there.

edited 9th Jan '16 9:19:58 AM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#49006: Jan 9th 2016 at 9:53:10 AM

It is interesting that they talk about serialized story-telling and connect Civil war with the Infinity War movies.

I said it before, I say it again: Civil War will only show how the conflict escalates. It won't be solved until Infinity War 1.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#49007: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:36:35 AM

"Vision goes on a journey, as well," added Joe Russo.
Would you say he goes on a...

...vision quest?

cool

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49008: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:45:30 AM

My hopes for this film is that the new avengers feel like a cohesive team, and not a shadow of the previous roster, for Scarlet Witch and Vision to become more established, for Black Panther to kick ass, and for the possibility of Zero starting a super villain team left open. And finally for the Skovian Accords to enrich the setting, not bog it down like the super reg act did in the comics.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#49010: Jan 9th 2016 at 12:01:45 PM

[up][up]I imagine we'll get the New Avengers being cool at the beginning. You need to establish the team before you blow it up.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#49011: Jan 9th 2016 at 12:07:50 PM

[up][up][up][up] Awwwwwww.

Crow: There's a plot?
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49012: Jan 9th 2016 at 12:23:15 PM

What's a good villain (or small team of villains) they could fight in the beginning who would make a cool fight but wouldn't need much plot significance? Maybe the Maggia, if Agent Carter doesn't have them be totally wiped out in the 50's.

Mobsters, even supermobsters, tend to play roles like that in superhero stories.

On the other hand, if they ultimately tie into Zemo's scheme the same way Batroc did to the plot of Winter Soldier, we could see them hinted to join the Masters of Evil in a later film (if it's a small group, we could see the most competent member be approached).

It'd also be cool if they used that opportunity to have enemies from the tie-in stuff cameo without needing setup. Absorbing Man, Blizzard, etc.

edited 9th Jan '16 12:25:24 PM by KnownUnknown

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#49013: Jan 9th 2016 at 1:00:30 PM

Absorbing man is cool. I really should watch AOS

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#49015: Jan 9th 2016 at 1:17:28 PM

The best thing is that Ao S even managed to add the chained iron ball without it looking ridiculous.

Hopefully they bring the character back at one point...him and blizzard.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#49017: Jan 9th 2016 at 3:30:35 PM

What he is saying about creating a more realistic environment is exactly what they tried with TAS - that the studio interfered and tried to make TAS 2 more like the outdated first take was what caused the tonal mess which ruined a series with a lot of potential.

And now I'm imagining one of the guys who had a hand in the Amazing Spider-Man movies head desking himself out of pure frustration because Marvel (inevitably) managed to do a "realistic Spider-Man" better than Sony did.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#49018: Jan 9th 2016 at 4:38:37 PM

I had wondered how Peter was able to sew those fancy suits on his own in secret.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#49019: Jan 9th 2016 at 5:33:00 PM

[up][up] You're assuming that the guys behind ASM still have desks.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#49020: Jan 9th 2016 at 6:54:48 PM

[up] What, they were fired?

If so...

evil grin

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#49022: Jan 9th 2016 at 7:31:43 PM

[up][up] No idea, but they might have been, or at least moved to jobs where they don't get a desk.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#49023: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:15:32 PM

[up][up] That first one is totally incomprehensible. Too much noise.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#49024: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:22:03 PM

In order: Hufflepuff, Slytherin, Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, and Gryffindor.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#49025: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:31:41 PM

[up][up] The Falcon is Hufflepuff, Crossbones is Slytherin, Peggy is Gryffindor, Hawkeye is Ravenclaw, and Cap is Gryffindor. (It did take me a second listen the first time around. tongue)


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