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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
This.
Then have Jane come along! Seriously, it's not that hard to fit her into the Asgard plot. In fact, have Thor road trip through the nine realms while Jane is in Asgard as part of the Council of Worlds, trying to keep the peace like she is currently in the comics.
edited 30th Dec '15 4:59:55 PM by alliterator
Hasn't "God living on Earth" been the entire premise of the character since the 60's?
Now, if they actually gave her something substantive to do, that would be great.
I wholeheartedly agree.
However, if I know fandoms like I think I do, I suspect that even if she was written perfectly into the plot and was totally awesome in the next movie she would get a lot of dislike simply for being in it. Eventually, in fandoms dislike of characters because of circumstances turns into hatred of characters regardless of circumstances, which is why Rescued from the Scrappy Heap is so unnecessarily difficult.
edited 30th Dec '15 5:07:58 PM by KnownUnknown
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To be fair, Avengers had him just arriving on Earth halfway through and Ultron had him offscreen constantly taking trips. Neither film gave him all that much character focus, even taking into account that Loki was the Big Bad of the first film.
Thor 1 flubbed it royally by making his time on Earth more limiting than developing - instead of seeing Thor among people and being forced to face his own humility in dealing with humanity, he mooches off of Jane while quickly falling in love with her.
I maintain that Thor 2 actually got it right, though. One of the few things I really liked about that movie was the way Earth and the final battle was portrayed - rather than a place that prevents Thor from really having experiences, Earth is played as another world and battleground like Hogun's, where he teams up with friends to battle great evil. It really feels like one of the nine realms.
edited 30th Dec '15 5:12:12 PM by KnownUnknown
Well, Pepper was in the first movie briefly, which was something.
It would have been interesting to see Jane share/take Selvig's role in the plot, though. What sort of expertise does she have that could have been used for Loki's portal device?
Speaking of which, regarding Jane!Thor - I haven't read many comics featuring her at the moment, so I don't know how well she's been handled. From what I understand, the decision to keep her identity a secret for so long hurt the book somewhat, but the relaunch might have done a better job?
In any case, I have no problem with the idea of Jane!Thor, and fully support the concept. But I'm not sure if MCU!Jane would be ideal for it.
edited 30th Dec '15 5:27:54 PM by KarkatTheDalek
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Do their fields differ at all? Basically, I had the idea of Selvig providing the hardware, while Jane would chart the coordinates of Earth and the Chitauri, so that the Tesseract could open the portal in the correct location.
Well, the reason Thor on Earth doesn't work in his movies is actually very simple: the part of the Universe he comes from just looks more interesting. Every time we get to see a bit of Asguard or another of the Realms, it tends to look gorgeous (The Dark World being the exception) and hint at interesting things. Even character-wise, people like Odin, Sif or the Warrior Three just feel more compelling than Team Comic Relief Scientist on Earth. Everything suggests a movie focusing on Asguardian stuff would be more interesting, yet they insist on focusing on the Earth side of things, or at least bring the Earth characters as much as possible.
I'm wary of that if only because I want to see them actually provide some focus for non-human characters not named "Loki". Lady Sif and the Warriors Three all got royally shafted in the last movie in favor of Jane and her pals making stupid quips on Earth, and I don't want the same thing to happen with Valkyrie and other potential new characters.
After the first Thor movies you know what I wanted the sequel to be? The adventure of Thor, Lady Sif, and the Warriors Three. It's not that I didn't like Darcy, Selvig, and Romantic plot tumor Jane Foster, I just found the Asgard stuff infinitely more interesting and I wanted Thor's Asgard friends to be more fleshed out and be characters and stuff over Earth stuff.
edited 30th Dec '15 6:17:31 PM by MousaThe14
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The relaunch has been much, much better primarily because we know that it's Jane Foster, we know why she's doing this, and we have a truly epic story going on around her (the War of the Realms). Also, we have the fact that being Thor is killing her - she is being treated for breast cancer, but every time she transforms into Thor, the magic flushes her body of all toxins, including the chemotherapy, but it doesn't get rid of her cancer (which is, after all, a part of her body). So each time she becomes Thor, it slowly kills her.
Isn't Comic!Malekith basically MCU!Ronan?
Edit- I like the sound of the Jane Foster as Thor comics (haven't read them as of yet) although I will say that the "being Thor is slowly killing her" element is a bit hard to take seriously because no one ever dies in comics (at least not permanently).
It's like I'd have to expect that eventually the comic will get to a point where she dies and then she'll be resurrected/ascend.
edited 30th Dec '15 8:31:50 PM by Hodor2
I really don't know. I didn't start reading Thor until the switch, so my understanding of Malekith is that he's an Evil Overlord universal conqueror-type, who's as ready to cut a deal or stage a strategic withdrawal as freeze someone to death or cut off Thor's arm and wear it like a fur stole(!). MCU!Ronan is more of a religious fanatic, someone who doesn't care much for subtlety or nuance but will literally hammer his enemies with everything he's got, all the while yelling about how he's going to get them.
When MCU!Ronan gets the Infinity Stone, he calls up Thanos to threaten him, then takes off to the planet of his enemies to blow it up. If Comics!Malekith got an Infinity Stone, he might keep it and quietly run off. Or call Thanos and arrange a meeting to hand it over, where he totally won't backstab Thanos, promise. Or maybe arrange to hand over the Stone in exchange for something more suited to Malekith's plans.
