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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#48676: Dec 28th 2015 at 2:54:34 PM

Are they in the Baltics, the Balkans, or what I forget.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#48677: Dec 28th 2015 at 2:55:07 PM

I don't think it's ever specified.

They probably just said "I dunno, say it's in some place we'll never show a map of anyway."

edited 28th Dec '15 2:55:32 PM by ultimatepheer

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#48678: Dec 28th 2015 at 2:58:20 PM

[up][up]Meant to say Balkans my bad. The country struck me as a Serbia expy.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#48679: Dec 28th 2015 at 2:58:37 PM

I'm a little surprised that they're doing Thor's Ragnarok story so soon.

Like.

Seems a little quick to be killing him off.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#48680: Dec 28th 2015 at 2:58:46 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Yeah, I think I've journeyed into unsanctioned waters long enough. As for Sokovia, I'm just going to wait for the Word of God for a specific geographic location.

edited 28th Dec '15 3:00:08 PM by nervmeister

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#48681: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:05:26 PM

Hard to find the main points in the last pages, but here are my two cents:

The Casting of Benedict Cumberbatch happened at a bad time. It was immediately after "who has the best Sherlock" mess (which I still consider a clever marketing move by CBS to ensure that Elementary got more attention than it deserved), and the whole "why did you made Kahn white?" complains concerning Star Trek into Darkness. There was also a general feeling of overexposure...it seemed like he was everywhere.

In addition it is kind of the expected role for him. Though I really don't see why this is truly a problem other than people have kind of gotten used to unexpected castings from Marvel and he was the first truly expected one. I mean, RDJ's career was really in the gutter when he was picked, Chris Evans has already played a Superhero beforehand in two really awful Fantastic 4 movies, Nobody really knew who Chris Hemsworth even was, Scarlett Johansson was considered to small and dainty for the role of Black Widow (and supposedly not an action star at all), Mark Ruffalo doesn't look like Edward Norton at all and nobody would have picked either Chris Evans or Chris Prat as the hero type (honestly, who is training those guys?).

This is the first time Marvel actually goes for the obvious choice.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#48682: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:07:03 PM

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What makes you think they are killing Thor off?

I definitely think we are going to see Asgard's place in the MCU be forever altered, but I wouldn't count any specific character out just yet.

edited 28th Dec '15 3:07:16 PM by Falrinn

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#48683: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:11:36 PM

I mean, going by how Ragnarok went in the comics and also mythology.

Like, yeah, Thor came back eventually in the comics, but.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#48684: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:14:00 PM

[up]Thor being absent from Infinity War would feel weird.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#48686: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:18:39 PM

[up]There is no "Life" Stone. Maybe you're referring to the Soul Stone.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#48687: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:28:15 PM

Thor being dead for Infinity War would actually be really interesting, because it'd tilt the odds even further against the good guys.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#48688: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:30:02 PM

[up]I'm sure we can have street-levelers alone fight the Mad Titan. waii

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#48689: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:34:00 PM

I step out of this thread for a few hours to visit some friends and I come back to find madness. It's a madhouse! A madhouse!

[up]They have a Hulk. And a new Captain. And two heroes whose powers boil down to "Whatever the plot requires".

edited 28th Dec '15 3:34:15 PM by comicwriter

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#48690: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:35:31 PM

I think when Thanos has the Infinity Gauntlet, there is no more tilting the odds against the good guys.

Against unlimited control over the fabric of reality, there's literally no real difference whether it's Thor or Hawkeye fighting him. If anyone isn't showing up in Infinity War, it's likely for the sake of trimming down the cast rather than giving the good guys any kind of disadvantage.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#48691: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:42:03 PM

I suspect Thanos isn't even gonna have the gauntlet completed until the second movie (or very end of the first) anyway.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#48692: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:42:36 PM

I step out of this thread for a few hours to visit some friends and I come back to find madness. It's a madhouse! A madhouse!
We went off on a tangent, but it's not like we were at each others' throats.

[up]They have a Hulk. And a new Captain. And two heroes whose powers boil down to "Whatever the plot requires".
I'm just wondering how the fight would go. Should it feel completely, curbstompingly hopeless until the last minute (via clever yet borderline suicidal plan), or should it be with our heroes mostly on the defensive, but getting a decent amount of good shots in with the help of shrewd strategy as opposed to Thanos's cocky use of pure power.

edited 28th Dec '15 3:44:56 PM by nervmeister

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#48693: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:45:58 PM

[up]Well, taking into account how pathetic Ultron was...I'm going with the first option, a hopeless battle against an omnipotent God. Be a good way to switch things up, instead of the Avengers quipping their way through the fight again.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#48694: Dec 28th 2015 at 3:59:59 PM

It's been suggested that there will be multiple villains so I think having the Avengers fight a team of formidable foes would be a nice change of pace from having them easily slaughter armies of faceless Mooks.

edited 28th Dec '15 4:00:09 PM by comicwriter

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#48695: Dec 28th 2015 at 4:00:17 PM

[up]As long as they get creative with what Thanos does with it, I'll be content.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#48696: Dec 28th 2015 at 4:01:46 PM

Scarlet witch and Vision are great, but they are going to need a lot of focus to keep up with the established characters or ones with their own movies, really I'm surprised Scarlet Witch doesn't get her own movie considering she could break new genre ground for the MCU. (Steven Strange is cosmic horror, but scarlet witch could do the occult on a much smaller level, like Blade)

I'd say the only major genres left for MCU to claim are swashbuckling escapism adventure, earthly paranormal, and the revenge quest flick.

Edit: I am SO hoping for the masters of Evil. I'm overdue for the Avengers to fight a super team.

edited 28th Dec '15 4:03:48 PM by Whowho

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#48697: Dec 28th 2015 at 4:09:58 PM

[up]Vision will probably get a Death in the Limelight subplot leading up to Thanos ripping the Stone from his head at least.

edited 28th Dec '15 4:10:08 PM by comicwriter

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#48698: Dec 28th 2015 at 4:13:22 PM

[up][up]This version of Wanda's powers aren't magic-based. So the occult/supernatural genre might be an awkward fit......unless maybe Agatha Harkness comes into play.

edited 28th Dec '15 4:13:59 PM by nervmeister

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#48699: Dec 28th 2015 at 4:14:06 PM

I would not object to a Scarlet Witch miniseries that's just her trying to Avenger.

edited 28th Dec '15 4:14:20 PM by ultimatepheer

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#48700: Dec 28th 2015 at 4:14:45 PM

I'll bet money that they will kill Thor off so as to introduce the female Thor to the MCU.


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