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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Depends. If the name isn't just for show, then a good portion of the plot will probably involve this guy,
who lives inside Earth, unless they decide to change that or his connection to Ragnarok for some reason (I can't imagine why they would, though).
If they're using name Ragnarok as a catch all for "big epic stuff happens involving Asgard" (a la Age of Ultron) and the villain is, say, Hela instead, then it might not be so prominent.
Either way, there'll probably be some Earth in there. "Prince who forgoes his life on Asgard to become protector of Midgard" is the premise of the character, after all. In fact, given that if anything he's barely there (Loki lampshades it in Avengers 1).
edited 10th Dec '15 7:50:28 PM by KnownUnknown
If it's based on Walt Simonson's run (which included the very awesome issue titled "Ragnarok and Roll"), then yes, it would be Surtr. But I'm also hoping for Hela, because I went Thor and Hulk to invade Hel and then fight against Amora and the Executioner and then the Executioner does a Heel–Face Turn and then oh god "He stood alone at Gjallerbru"
oh the tears.
After what they did to Kurse, I'm not optimistic about them retaining Skurge's noble warrior / Anti-Villain traits.
And besides, as beautiful as that moment is, I think we need at least one movie to establish Skurge's character and his relationships with Amora and the other Asgardians in order for his Heroic Sacrifice to have more impact.
Also: this is all well and good, but I want my man Beta Ray Bill.
Again back to Iron Fist: Is his company of any importance? I mean, Tony clearly has to be rich, otherwise he couldn't afford all his tech. But Iron Fist? Why is he even rich in the first place? Did the writers even think about it or was it a "well, we want him to have to time to do whatever he wants" kind of thing?
The upside is that it does give him a unique perspective in perspective to all of his friends. The downside is that it'd be extremely hard to make the audience sympathetic to that perspective.
On the other other hand, already having a wealthy character doesn't mean they can't do something different with Danny, especially since the approach to wealth with Tony's characterization is very... extreme.
As for why, chalk it up to "bored rich guy who moonlights as a superhero" being a very popular premise.
edited 10th Dec '15 11:32:16 PM by KnownUnknown
Right, so I know we're talking about Ragnorok, and Civil War and whether Iron Fist should be asian or not, but I just caught this a few pages back:
Kevin Tran knows Martial Arts?
Man, I knew he was wasted with Sam and Dean.
Anyway, Danny having actually been poor at one point before the training, then gaining riches when he returns would be an interesting thing. It'd give him some perspective from all sides really.
One Strip! One Strip!Speaking of Iron Fist, which villains do you think we might see? The only one of I really know of Steel Serpent. Looking it up, between Luke and Iron Fist they're pretty much fought the entire Serpent Society, so I'm wondering if we'll get them.
They seem like possible antagonists for the full team series too, though.
edited 12th Dec '15 1:38:44 PM by KnownUnknown
Man, MCU Iron Fist is gonna be the best live-action Mortal Kombat ever!
(Especially if they're adapting the Tournament Arc from the comics)
On Iron Fist, why does the group need a rich guy? I mean we've been talking about diversity but class diversity is a real thing, and if they just throw a rich guy into the team (and happen to have him be the most powerful one) it rather drives home a pretty classist notion, and removes the idea of street level real people facing real problems.
Part of what I love about the Netflix stuff is that we've got real people with real jobs trying to make a difference while living real normal lives. They don't need a mythical Batman dropped on them who's just a rich person who superheroes in their free time, we've got that already with Iron Man (and you know, Batman himself in the DCU). The Netflix shows currently have a good message of real working people being capable and great heroes themselves, let's not ruin that by dumping a super rich guy on top of them.
My spellchecker disagrees, but I believe it's a Bourgeoisie invention so I don't trust it.
edited 13th Dec '15 11:16:41 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI think the word is just "classist", but you've got a point.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

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