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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#47451: Dec 2nd 2015 at 11:59:04 AM

That seems like it would be uncomfortable.

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#47452: Dec 2nd 2015 at 11:59:56 AM

I'm disappointed but not surprised.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47453: Dec 2nd 2015 at 12:01:14 PM

The way the Accords are set up manages to keep the spirit of the Super Human Registration Act, which pleases me.

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#47454: Dec 2nd 2015 at 12:58:11 PM

That must chafe like hell.

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#47455: Dec 2nd 2015 at 1:20:56 PM

a random group of people

That's rather a jump. It says that it's a UN panel, so it's going to have been set up by the UN, which is run by the governments of the world acting in a democratic system of one nation one vote. That's a much less "random group of people" then the current people who decide when the Avengers deploy, the Avengers themselves.

As for oversight stopping the Hulk rampage, well an oversight group would probably not have felt it was "appropriate and/or necessary" for the Hulk to be in the field.

edited 2nd Dec '15 1:22:13 PM by Silasw

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#47456: Dec 2nd 2015 at 1:22:26 PM

Especially if they were just going to leave him in the car.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#47457: Dec 2nd 2015 at 2:45:51 PM

Article on Black Panther in Civil War. Looks like they're doubling down on him as a neutral party.

But Boseman says no one’s loyalty is simple in this story. “Ultimately some sides are taken, but I think the trick of the movie is for no one to be blindly following,” he says. “Everybody is actually on their own side, in truth.”
I'm so relieved to hear this.

edited 2nd Dec '15 2:46:58 PM by AlleyOop

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#47458: Dec 2nd 2015 at 2:59:41 PM

That will be interesting and I'm certainly glad to hear it. The Sokovia Accords are shittier than the SHRA. Correctly focused on superheroes over superhumans but without any redeeming qualities whatsoever.

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#47459: Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:03:06 PM

wild mass guess The solo Spider-man movie will be about Spidey fighting and trying to thwart a bunch of heists by The Vulture while including and focusing on his school life, friends, and frienamies. A complaint by people who've only seen the trailers and short scenes will be that Peter is acting a little too irresponsible for a character who revolves around responsibility.

The plot twist will be that Uncle Ben has actually been alive and well for most of the movie until he finds out that Peter is Spider-man, gives him the 'with great power, comes great responsibility' speech and is killed from an irresponsible mistake Pete makes.wild mass guess

edited 2nd Dec '15 3:11:49 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#47460: Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:10:14 PM

I hope that they use J. Jonah Jameson for the Spider-Man movie and that they use the version of him who distrusts Spider-Man specifically because he's suspicious of the concept of masked vigilantism and can't fathom the idea of an anonymous individual being a hero like astronauts, soldiers, or most of the Avengers.

As opposed to the version who hates all superheroes and just likes to focus on Spider-Man because reasons.

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#47461: Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:31:44 PM

JJJ sometimes randomly decides to throw all his support behind a masked vigilante.

Who inevitably turn out to be villains.

Or, Silk, I guess.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#47462: Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:33:51 PM

It occurs to me to ask how there's still non-super crime in the comics when masked superheroes are a dime a dozen and hang out basically everywhere.

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#47463: Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:39:29 PM

Because the world is a big place and superheroes can't be everywhere because sometimes they have to punch robot nazis in the face on the moon instead of stopping a bank robbery.

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#47464: Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:48:02 PM

I saw a podcast title the other day called "Black Panther's debut was running from the cops"

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#47466: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:22:33 PM

CAN YOU FEEL THE STORM

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#47467: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:28:49 PM

I hope that they use J. Jonah Jameson for the Spider-Man movie and that they use the version of him who distrusts Spider-Man specifically because he's suspicious of the concept of masked vigilantism and can't fathom the idea of an anonymous individual being a hero like astronauts, soldiers, or most of the Avengers.

This would especially work in a post Civil-War world, if Spidey continues to operate without Accord control.

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#47468: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:29:18 PM

I mean, that podcast title isn't wrong.

Black Panther's first story in the Avengers book had him falsely accused of murdering the Avengers.

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#47469: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:33:05 PM

I think they were either referring to that, or to his debut in the trailer.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#47470: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:55:38 PM

Talking about his debut in the trailer, but as they point out Woolie the Liar is wrong anyway.

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#47472: Dec 2nd 2015 at 5:22:49 PM

@Why is there still non-super crime in a comic world: It's mostly a combination of superheroes not being omniscient and focusing on more important issues. I mean Iron Man could stop a bank robbery if he wanted to but it's a little below his pay grade. It's also a waste of time when you have various terrorist groups and evil business tycoons trying to enact their evil plans.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#47473: Dec 2nd 2015 at 5:47:46 PM

Glad to hear BP is still neutral even though he was on Iron Man's side in the art. I'm guessing that was just visual shorthand.

It occurs to me to ask how there's still non-super crime in the comics when masked superheroes are a dime a dozen and hang out basically everywhere.

There was a subplot in Scarlet Spider about criminals actually moving to other cities because 99 percent of all the world's superheroes live in New York. Everywhere else is relatively undefended.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#47474: Dec 2nd 2015 at 5:47:59 PM

Eeeeeh, No. His shock over finding out he was an adopted frost giant was pretty real. So were his desire to prove his value to Odin and his trickster tendencies. These sound like characterizations to me. He couldn't be lying in all the parts where we see him. Or are you arguing he faked shock when finding out about his true origins so he would cause Odin to fall into the Odinsleep? Because that's pretty ridiculous.

I figured Loki must have found out his true parentage sometime before the start of the movie, and that's why he set his whole plan into motion. So, yeah, I thought his shock during that scene was part of the act, too.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#47475: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:00:10 PM

His plan didn't start until after that point - before then, he was just bringing Frost Giants to indirectly Asgard to mess with Thor.

You can visibly see his approach change after that scene.

edited 2nd Dec '15 6:01:26 PM by KnownUnknown


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