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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46901: Nov 24th 2015 at 7:36:58 PM

So Krysten Ritter's gonna be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight, as well.

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#46902: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:22:33 PM

Make mine Marvel.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46904: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:30:50 PM

Well, that certainly looks a lot more nuanced than the comic book Civil War. It looks like after Ultron and Sokovia, Tony is much more willing to accept limitations, but Cap won't accept Bucky being arrested and executed for his crimes, which brings them into conflict.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46905: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:31:21 PM

"Do you really wanna punch your way out of this one?" kinda sums up the problems with the original comic, don't it.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#46907: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:33:39 PM

It sums up the limits of nearly every superhero comic. Punching problems in real life doesn't usually solve everything.

Of course, Cap is no stranger to refusing to fight, as The Winter Soldier's climax showed, but he does have that fight-happy streak that WS and Age of Ultron have touched on.

Also, fantastic trailer.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:35:52 PM by Tuckerscreator

PCM Since: Oct, 2015
#46908: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:37:08 PM

It honest-to-god looks like the completion of a trilogy rather than an Avengers movie. More like a piece of cinema than a franchise film. All the sweet spy-political-action of the Winter Soldier with the rest of the MCU spread between it. This looks like, IMO, what could be the best MCU film to date. (Also: nothing on Spidey pisses me off about as much as not showing Luke Skywalker in the SW trailers does, and it's smart, and I like it. Not even a single hint. Smooth, Marvel.)

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#46909: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:38:13 PM

@PCM: They're saving Spidey as a end-of-trailer thing for the next one, definitely.

At least we get some good shots of Panther though.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:38:36 PM by edvedd

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#46910: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:41:14 PM

Also seems like Bucky is framed for the incident that sets off the Civil War. So kind of a combination of the Stamford Incident and I'd guess the Zemo plot that's Janice!Beetle's origin story- unless there's some other incident of Zemo blowing up/plotting to blow up a lot of people and blame it on Bucky. Not that I think she'll show up but it fits in with the premise of Zemo, Bucky, and Sam.

But yeah, looks very good.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:43:08 PM by Hodor2

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46911: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:42:35 PM

Who is moostache-guy?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46912: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:43:05 PM

Thunderbolt Ross.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:43:20 PM by alliterator

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46913: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:45:06 PM

Ooh.

Will he get irradiated into Hulk Whose Skintone Reflects Visible Light Between A Wavelength of 700 Nanometers And 750 Nanometers?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46914: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:45:41 PM

Somebody change the the Civil War concept art edit with the actual poster.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#46915: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:46:15 PM

[up][up]Probably not, as Universal controls the distribution rights to the films about Giant Green Rage Monster Guy.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:46:29 PM by Tuckerscreator

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#46916: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:48:14 PM

The cinematography looks very unlike the shaky cam of Winter Soldier. Seems smoother.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46917: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:48:33 PM

Oh man that Iron Man beatdown. Glorious.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46918: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:50:21 PM

[up] I'm so fucking jubilant about that.

Bucky and Cap going to town on Tony's ass. I'm in heaven.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#46919: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:51:02 PM

I've watched the trailer 3 times and I'm pretty sure I came every time.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#46920: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:51:17 PM

I was psyched for most of the trailer anyway, but seeing T'Challa in full Panther gear pushed the hype to maximum. (I'm almost afraid to see how I'm gonna react to seeing Spidey)

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#46921: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:51:30 PM

[up][up][up]That just means there won't be a solo film. Hulk showed up in Avengers without Universal.

DirectorCannon Since: Nov, 2011
#46922: Nov 24th 2015 at 10:08:02 PM

[up] In fact, Hulk is reportedly a supporting character in Thor: Ragnarok.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46923: Nov 24th 2015 at 10:11:06 PM

No "reportedly" about it, it's been confirmed by Mark Ruffalo himself.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#46924: Nov 24th 2015 at 10:12:46 PM

That just means there won't be a solo film. Hulk showed up in Avengers without Universal.

Indeed, but that's why I think they won't have Red Hulk without Hulk.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#46925: Nov 24th 2015 at 10:12:51 PM

"He's my friend"

"So was I."

Man, that's quite a heart-wrenching exchange of words there. At the very least, this makes me much more confident that the film won't villainize Tony Stark to such a ridiculous degree like in the comic, and that the story will be much more even in terms of morality.

And heck, it looks like it too is taking a political thriller route, just like WS.


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