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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Wackd Since: May, 2009
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46702: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:53:01 PM

[up]I never said this was about race or sex/gender. But the entitlement thing in general makes sense.

edited 21st Nov '15 1:54:13 PM by nervmeister

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46703: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:55:15 PM

nervmeister seems to have made the opposite point of Wacked, honestly.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46704: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:56:41 PM

I would really love to see Tennant doing his tongue thing that he did as Barty Crouch Jr. In the fourth Harry Potter movie. XD

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#46705: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:59:32 PM

[up][up]LMAO.

Though Wack'ds interpretation actually makes way more sense to me.

edited 21st Nov '15 2:00:21 PM by comicwriter

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46706: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:01:17 PM

nervmeister seems to have made the opposite point of Wacked, honestly.
The opposite of "self-righteous internet assholes" is not "white dude", no.

Those things are more or less synonyms.

(Also it's Wack'd.)

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46707: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:02:18 PM

He equated "self-righteous internet assholes" with tumblr though, that's why I responded the way I did.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#46709: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:06:49 PM

If we're going off that one incident of him calling Trish's show to threaten her, that's general internet troll behavior regardless of the political spectrum. There's nothing distinctly "SJW" about it.

In fact anonymously contacting a woman to threaten her over her opinions is kind of a hallmark of the internet, sadly.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46710: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:08:11 PM

[up][up]I meant that as just one example. Reddit, Tumblr, 4chan, etc. Wherever there's an echo chamber.

edited 21st Nov '15 4:35:28 PM by nervmeister

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46711: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:10:47 PM

Jessica Jones strikes me as distinctly pro-Tumblr, seeing as its a community of women and minorities banding together to try and validate the shit they've been through to a society that doesn't believe their oppression is a thing that actually exists.

edited 21st Nov '15 2:11:18 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46712: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:22:13 PM

[up]That's an understandable interpretation. Though to me, it seemed more like a show about coping with trauma and overcoming trust issues.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#46714: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:24:13 PM

I mean, maybe I'm just being defensive because I'm a redditor and that apparently makes me the enemy, but it's not like that's only available on the secret internet only white dudes are allowed to use.

My various fanfics.
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46715: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:26:13 PM

I mean, I'm not saying being on Reddit inherently makes you a bad person. I'm using it to mean r/MRA the same way folks use 4chan to mean b/ and Tumblr to mean SJW. That was probably wrong of me, and I'm sorry.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#46716: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:26:17 PM

Tumblr isn't without it's share of self-righteous assholes who are also women/minorities. Those things definitely aren't mutually exclusive if the recent SU kerfluffle and a good amount of what I see on my dash means anything.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#46718: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:45:28 PM

Everywhere has self-righteous assholes.

What they're self-righteous about varies by website, but at the end of the day, everyone is only varying degrees of dickhead. The internet just magnifies it.

We've got a trope for this, people.

edited 21st Nov '15 2:45:38 PM by ultimatepheer

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#46719: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:54:25 PM

Yeah, I don't think Kilgrave was necessarily meant to embody any singular group as much as being a good old fashioned all-around, elitist and entitled asshole who thinks he's inherently superior to everyone else. Throughout a lot of the plot, he struck me as an even more narcissistic and sociopathic Gaston, who is an example of the same character - a person who believes at his core that since he gets everything he wants, the people around him only matter insofar as they can give him what he wants.

There are a lot of groups and ideologies today that suffer from that mindset, and Kilgrave can call to mind or be applied to any or really all of them depending on your outlook (for instance, I read a lot of classist subtext in his demeanor).

edited 21st Nov '15 2:56:59 PM by KnownUnknown

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46720: Nov 21st 2015 at 3:27:29 PM

He may not supposed to embody any particular group but his status as a white male contrasted with the rest of the cast makes it super-easy for him to do that anyway.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46721: Nov 21st 2015 at 3:36:39 PM

[up]Pretty much. Though the Unfortunate Implications hopefully wont get too many people heated.

edited 21st Nov '15 3:39:00 PM by nervmeister

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46722: Nov 21st 2015 at 4:05:52 PM

I thought Kilgrave was meant to represent...jerks. :P

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#46723: Nov 21st 2015 at 4:12:21 PM

Yeah, I don't think Kilgrave was necessarily meant to embody any singular group as much as being a good old fashioned all-around, elitist and entitled asshole who thinks he's inherently superior to everyone else.

Sounds very similar to a certain group or two. >_>

edited 21st Nov '15 4:13:18 PM by MadSkillz

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#46724: Nov 21st 2015 at 4:13:25 PM

The Lizard People?

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#46725: Nov 21st 2015 at 4:14:26 PM

white lizard people


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