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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#46676: Nov 20th 2015 at 12:12:49 PM

Could be. It wouldn't be the first time a Marvel writer had a character totally killing someone and then almost immediately another writer had them boasting about how superheroes/Avengers/they personally would NEVER kill a person under any conditions ever.

Just the first time it happened in the MCU.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46677: Nov 20th 2015 at 12:21:29 PM

But this was more or less the same episode....

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46678: Nov 20th 2015 at 12:24:39 PM

I mean, it might've been something Goddard intended for the show to bring up later but never got the chance to.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46679: Nov 20th 2015 at 12:36:32 PM

It is kinda hard to frame it as Matt's fault; if he didn't fight back he'd have died, so you can't blame him for fighting Nobu. If he hadn't deflected the gama he'd have died, so you can't blame him for that either. Meanwhile, Nobu could have tried to extinguish himself or Fisk could have done so, but the former chose to keep fighting and the latter wanted him to burn.

I mean, I guess when Fisk arrived Matt could have at least said "I want to kill you but can our fight wait until after we've extinguished Nobu?".

But regardless, Daredevil is old news. Jessica is what's new and hip and I will now proceed to waste hours of my life binge-watching.

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#46680: Nov 20th 2015 at 12:56:08 PM

It was not his fault that he was forced to kill a man in self-defense during the course of his vigilante activities, but it's still disingenuous for him to say in defense of his vigilante activities that, "I have never killed a man." A more accurate statement would be, "I have only killed in self-defense when there was no other option available to me."

edited 20th Nov '15 12:57:29 PM by TobiasDrake

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Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#46681: Nov 20th 2015 at 1:03:37 PM

I don't think it's disingenuous when from Matt's perspective, he might not even know Nobu is dead.

The man already demonstrated the ability to conceal his heartbeat and such, for all Matt knew (especially since he was suffering from having been nearly killed himself) Nobu survived. He doesn't know he couldn't bounce back from that.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46682: Nov 20th 2015 at 1:04:12 PM

Goddard only wrote the first two episodes, he wasn't showrunner. He was supposed to be showrunner, but he got busy with Sinister Six (which never got made) and Steven S. DeKnight came in and did all the showrunning, although Drew Goddard still advised them.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46683: Nov 20th 2015 at 1:45:20 PM

Watched the first episode now.

Kilgrave hasn't even shown up yet and already I'm hoping someone caves his face in with a mallet.

His grape-flavored mind control is REALLY horrifying.

edited 20th Nov '15 1:45:33 PM by Anomalocaris20

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46684: Nov 20th 2015 at 1:51:50 PM

I'm currently on Episode 11 of Jessica Jones. I'm posting this mostly for myself, I want to keep a certain track of time here.

EDIT: I changed this because I forgot what episode I was on.

edited 20th Nov '15 2:30:14 PM by VeryMelon

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46685: Nov 20th 2015 at 2:23:32 PM

I'm on 12...pretty tired, but I can't stop now. The last episodes were intense.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46687: Nov 20th 2015 at 3:15:37 PM

Finally! I was waiting for Claire to show up. She is awesome! Too bad that she is only in one episode.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#46688: Nov 20th 2015 at 3:50:13 PM

So, I'm only halfway through the first episode so far, but I found this.

I mean, it's probably not going to happen, but it's cool that Tennant is interested and open to doing it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46689: Nov 20th 2015 at 4:01:28 PM

[up]Honestly, I don't think that my nerves would survive him turning up ever again.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46691: Nov 20th 2015 at 4:48:38 PM

"You want to include me in the next Avengers film."

"Uh, Tennant, you're not ACTUALLY Kilgra-"

"I said, you want to include me in the next Avengers film. You will be delighted to do so."

"Please leave."

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46692: Nov 20th 2015 at 4:51:58 PM

-snerks-

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46694: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:13:47 PM

Good, be upset, Purple Man. I hope you do go.

Anyway, watched up to episode 6 for today.

Must say, that funny poker scene from the trailer took a much darker turn than expected.

edited 20th Nov '15 7:14:56 PM by Anomalocaris20

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yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#46695: Nov 21st 2015 at 8:50:52 AM

[up] I'm on episode six too. The ending was great. I thought it was just that guy's kid who was named Jessica at first, but the crash happened when she 14, and then... Birch Street. Higgins Drive. Cobalt Lane. AHH!

edited 21st Nov '15 8:51:07 AM by yellowturtle

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46696: Nov 21st 2015 at 11:34:28 AM

Jessica Jones is hands-down one of the best things Marvel has ever put out.

Not even in the MCU. Like, the entire company.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46697: Nov 21st 2015 at 12:06:13 PM

Yes, yes it is. I mean, when they said it was a psychological thriller, they weren't fucking kidding.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46698: Nov 21st 2015 at 12:17:03 PM

Holy shit, I don't think I've ever hated a character played by David Tennant as much as I hate Kilgrave.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#46699: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:00:59 PM

It's also a great example of Marvel Studios branching out and making content that can appeal to a wide group of people. As a noir detective mystery/thriller, it's almost entirely unlike anything else they've put out - even Daredevil - and can definitely appeal to fanbases that might not have been so interested in their other content.

edited 21st Nov '15 1:01:31 PM by KnownUnknown

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46700: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:26:05 PM

I cant help think Tennant based his performance on one of those self-righteous internet assholes you run into on message boards or Tumblr.

The scene where he calls Trish on her show, for instance.

edited 21st Nov '15 1:32:11 PM by nervmeister


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