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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46551: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:50:07 PM

Stupid or not, that was unarguably awesome, yeah. [tup]

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#46552: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:50:45 PM

I'm okay with comics and related being stupid.

They usually always are.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#46553: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:50:58 PM

Why do you have no desire to watch the tv shows? I mean if you're just not interested it's fine, but I recommend them. Great plotting, characterization and acting (sometimes superior to the MCU movies, Daredevil being the prime example) all around. Daredevil features protagonists and antagonists alike with complexities deeper than the movie ones in several ways, primarily because of the relative lack of time a movie has.

So I'd recommend tv shows to you.

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#46554: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:51:01 PM

For as much complaining as I've done about that movie, I won't deny that the tank keychain was really cool and took me completely by surprise.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46555: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:51:54 PM

Thor: The Dark World had many enjoyable scenes, but the movie as a whole wasn't my favorite.

I think my favorite scene in that movie was Thor and Loki flying the Dark Elf ship and chopping off Asgardian statues with the ship's hull. [lol]

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#46556: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:52:28 PM

I got a kick out of Mjolnir desperately trying to find Thor after being separated through a portal.

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#46557: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:52:54 PM

Speaking of Ant-Man, at least from just watching the movies, in Civil War the battle seems to be in Team Stark's favor, mostly because of Vision...but then I was also told that Ant-Man being in Team America would even it out.

Hmm...interesting.

That makes me wonder what exactly is the full capacity of Vision is. Eh, whatever goes, I guess.

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#46558: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:54:33 PM

The deck seems stacked in Stark's favor but, for the sake of good storytelling, it should be stacked in Stark's favor. Civil War isn't an Avengers movie where you'd be reasonably expected to root for both and honestly unsure who will prevail. It's a Captain America film. Team Stark are an antagonist force, not an equal side. Antagonists are meant to be more powerful than protagonists, to raise tension and sweeten the inevitable victory.

The deck was stacked in Hydra's favor in Winter Soldier too.

edited 18th Nov '15 12:55:05 PM by TobiasDrake

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46559: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:57:06 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]I'm even more impressed by the fact that the gasoline inside said tank was still good enough for it to run on after decades of inactivity.

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#46560: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:58:46 PM

Tank moment was cool, though I knew it was coming from the moment we saw the tank keychain in the first place.

Though Hank's gotta have like Hulk-strength to carry 60-something metric tons of condensed metal in his pocket though.

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#46561: Nov 18th 2015 at 12:58:53 PM

Stark: Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Black Widow, Black Panther and potentially Spider-man

Rogers: The Cap, Hawkeye, The Falcon, the Winter Soldier, Ant-man, Sharon Carter and potentially Scarlet Witch and Spider-man later on

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#46562: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:00:06 PM

Pssh, like Hank would not use an atomic tank.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46563: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:02:15 PM

I've seen key chain like that somewhere so I did NOT see them coming.

Also, well, there's the conservation of the mass thing. Then again, that law gets violated more often than [JOKE REDACTED FOR BEING INSENSITIVE] so I don't have too much issues with that.

Does anyone, I wonder?

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46564: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:02:52 PM

[up][up][up][up]I'm pretty sure weight gets decreased/increased by the Pym Particle. It's density that (somehow) remains the same.

edited 18th Nov '15 1:03:15 PM by nervmeister

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46565: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:03:39 PM

Then how can Scott punch with the force of a 200-pound man?

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#46566: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:05:15 PM

Sweet sciencey magic.

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#46567: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:05:18 PM

Mass is not conserved. It all floats around in Zero-Space. When you punch, however, your mass is temporarily accessed and channeled into the force of the blow.

How else would Scott be able to run along the barrel of a gun unaffected by his weight, yet still punch with the force of a 200-lb man?

edited 18th Nov '15 1:05:56 PM by TobiasDrake

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46569: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:07:11 PM

Thanos did it.

I know it makes zero sense whatsoever, I just like the sound of that phrase. [lol]

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#46570: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:07:14 PM

Whew. I was super ninjad. [nja]

edited 18th Nov '15 1:07:48 PM by yellowturtle

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46571: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:10:30 PM

Hmm...as far as I know, most people in Team Cap are augmented and highly trained, but not in the tier of the likes of Thor, Vision, and Hulk.

......What if Tony take that stun device Obadiah used in Iron Man 1, modify it, and just blast it at them?

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46572: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:12:08 PM

[up][up]The Hand shows no mercy. They cut in front of Matt Murdock all the time at the deli.

[up]Wouldn't surprise me if he already had a "stun" setting on his repulsors.

edited 18th Nov '15 1:14:47 PM by nervmeister

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#46573: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:14:27 PM

The Hand. Cut in.

*snerks*

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46574: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:16:11 PM

@dRoy Agent Carter is written by the same team which also writes the Captain America movies. It is therefore very close connected to the franchise and is basically telling Peggy's story. Meaning you get the other half of what I consider the most epic and tragic romance in the MCU. You have to decide for yourself if you are missing out or not, but it isn't too late to catch up if you are interested. The first season has only eight episodes and has a concluded storyline....it is pretty much like watching a six hour movie.

But if this show is not to your taste, there are two (soon four) other options for you. You can either give Agent of Shield a chance. That requires a little bit more investment and a lot of patience because the first season is a little bit wonky, but it is one of those shows which just keep getting better and better. This last episode more or less rewrote the whole MCU while adding some interesting details to The Avengers. But it also tells a great story in its own right.

And finally there is Daredevil. That would be like watching a R-rated 10 hour movie. Very tightly written it is set in the darker corner of the MCU. So if you crave something gritty, the show should satisfy you. If that is not your thing at all, well, so far Daredevil is the most isolated of the TV franchises. That might change in the future, though.

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#46575: Nov 18th 2015 at 1:16:16 PM

What if Tony take that stun device Obadiah used in Iron Man 1, modify it, and just blast it at them?

We see a bigger version of them in The Incredible Hulk that's mounted on jeeps. But Stark hasn't been manufacturing weapons for a while, besides those for his armors. And it's been a while since that film.

edited 18th Nov '15 1:16:57 PM by Tuckerscreator


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