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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#46401: Nov 15th 2015 at 3:36:59 AM

I think in Spider-Man 3 he was the "New" Goblin. Y'know, like a supervillain soda flavor.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#46404: Nov 15th 2015 at 5:34:01 AM

So would that make Doc Ock Pepsi?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#46405: Nov 15th 2015 at 8:03:09 AM

Spider-Man has too many goblins in his life.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#46406: Nov 15th 2015 at 8:20:09 AM

Last guy I saw with many more goblins was Hsrry Potter.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46407: Nov 15th 2015 at 8:24:27 AM

[up][up].............Let's petition for Marvel to transplant Madelyne Pryor into Spidey's rogues gallery. tongue

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#46408: Nov 15th 2015 at 8:38:49 AM

Yeah okay

Spidey could stand to have more female villains. Who are not Black Cat.

edited 15th Nov '15 8:39:04 AM by Bocaj

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#46409: Nov 15th 2015 at 8:48:37 AM

[up]They tried giving him a new one with a female Dr Octopus once. Didn't go so well.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46410: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:02:01 AM

Well, there was also Stunner. Who was Doc Ock's girlfriend.

edited 15th Nov '15 9:02:23 AM by alliterator

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#46411: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:03:04 AM

Actually now that I think about it, female supervillains who don't involve The Vamp or Dating Catwoman are surprisingly rare. Excluding those who actually face female superheroes, obviously.

edited 15th Nov '15 9:04:11 AM by Theokal3

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#46412: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:13:14 AM

There was also Scorpia. She's incredibly obscure but surprisingly enough she was going to be one of the main characters in the Sinister Six movie.

[up]I think the overuse of Dating Catwoman stems a bit from Positive Discrimination. I've noticed in general there's usually a much greater push to redeem or woobify female villains from the writers for some reason.

edited 15th Nov '15 9:14:11 AM by comicwriter

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#46413: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:31:43 AM

They tried giving him a new one with a female Dr Octopus once. Didn't go so well.

Thats because she was badly written, hip deep in the clone saga debacle, and her plots were all nonsensical nonsense.

I recall that she worked better as a Spider-Girl villain.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#46414: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:48:31 AM

Where's Crystal Goblin?

My various fanfics.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46415: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:49:33 AM

No idea, but there is the Hemo-Goblin. He's from DC and he's an AIDS vampire. I'm not kidding.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#46416: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:50:30 AM

[up][up]She wanted to merge the internet with reality, if I recall correctly. Also, she was pissed off at her dad, Doc Samson. I don't know why.

For female villains, I nominate Ruby Thursday. She's your average mad scientist, barely used, and has a small, hyper-dense ball of "organic circuitry," that can shoot out tentacles and lasers. She looks creepy as hell, but she's also perfectly sane- as sane as super villains get, anyway.

edited 15th Nov '15 9:50:58 AM by JBC31187

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#46417: Nov 15th 2015 at 9:56:47 AM

[up] That is such a cool character design! She should totally be brought back from obscurity. (Although it probably doesn't hurt that she's name after one of my favorite Stones songs)

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46418: Nov 15th 2015 at 10:02:23 AM

Actually now that I think about it, female supervillains who don't involve The Vamp or Dating Catwoman are surprisingly rare. Excluding those who actually face female superheroes, obviously.
That's part of the reason I hope they use Hela for Thor Ragnarok instead of Amora (though she too is quite powerful and beloved by Thor fans).

edited 15th Nov '15 10:05:11 AM by nervmeister

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46419: Nov 15th 2015 at 10:56:05 AM

Ruby Tuesday is actually part of a group of bizarre supervillains called the Headmen. And they should totally be used in the MCU.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#46420: Nov 15th 2015 at 11:28:37 AM

Marvel really is lacking a plethora of female villains. All the big villainous movers and shakers are male. The enchantress and Mystique are probably the most notable.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46421: Nov 15th 2015 at 11:35:46 AM

Hobgoblin Dew Baja Blast.

...oh sorry, I thought we were still doing Spiderman villains + soda names.

edited 15th Nov '15 11:36:04 AM by higherbrainpattern

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#46422: Nov 15th 2015 at 11:45:50 AM

Thats because she was badly written, hip deep in the clone saga debacle, and her plots were all nonsensical nonsense. I recall that she worked better as a Spider-Girl villain.

Fair enough.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#46423: Nov 15th 2015 at 2:20:30 PM

Spidey also has Shriek and Calypso. And on the topic of Goblins, there's Menace. And I'd love to see Janice Lincoln at some point (though I'd also like to see her in her more general Marvel role than specifically being Spider-Man related).

For hilarity, there's also White Rabbit and Lady Stilt Man.

Actually now that I think about it, female supervillains who don't involve The Vamp or Dating Catwoman are surprisingly rare. Excluding those who actually face female superheroes, obviously.

Yeah, it's an annoying thing about superhero comics that there've been unwritten rules about the character types female villains can have (well, female characters in general) since the beginning, and we're only just started to sorta get out of the rut.

It happens with pretty much all non-white male villains in comics, but it's particularly noticeable with villainesses because it's been traditional for so long.

edited 15th Nov '15 2:23:42 PM by KnownUnknown

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#46424: Nov 15th 2015 at 3:59:35 PM

Granny Goodness being the notable exception.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#46425: Nov 15th 2015 at 4:40:23 PM

She still fits a general female villain character type, though. Just not that specific one.


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