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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

czhang from Canada Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#46326: Nov 12th 2015 at 9:27:23 AM

Oh man, I'm pumped. She was by far my favourite character from Daredevil.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46327: Nov 12th 2015 at 12:14:36 PM

Matt himself is also confirmed to appear, right?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46328: Nov 12th 2015 at 1:03:22 PM

Yep. They specifically said Matt Murdock, so I don't think Daredevil will make an appearance, just him as a lawyer.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#46329: Nov 12th 2015 at 11:49:34 PM

Interesting. If it's Hel I wonder whether they'll keep the ties to Loki.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46330: Nov 13th 2015 at 12:07:32 AM

It will probably be the Enchantress. But I hope they do include Hela, if only in cameo, because she has one of the coolest costumes ever.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#46333: Nov 13th 2015 at 6:20:51 AM

I'm hoping for Enchantress! With her and Baron Zemo in the same universe, how couldn't you have the masters of evil?

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46334: Nov 13th 2015 at 6:56:14 AM

[up][up][up]Well, at least it sounds like she left on good terms.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46337: Nov 13th 2015 at 7:39:28 AM

I'd like to see Kingpin in the new Spider-Man film actually, just so that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has a legitimate case of Rogues' Gallery Transplant.

edited 13th Nov '15 7:40:31 AM by VeryMelon

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#46338: Nov 13th 2015 at 7:39:33 AM

Kraven would be a good choice.

My personal choices would be Shocker, Mysterio, Vulture, or Molten Man. But Shocker or Mysterio is my first choice.

You know, it's weird, I have never heard of Morlun until I read that article.

But then I had never heard of Molten Man until I read a bunch of Essential Spider-man collections back in High School, that dude recurred a TON back in the old days. I'm really surprised I never saw him adapted into anything.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#46339: Nov 13th 2015 at 7:41:40 AM

[up]He actually showed up in The Spectacular Spider Man a couple of times. Still wasn't too prominent though.

edited 13th Nov '15 7:42:03 AM by kkhohoho

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#46340: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:01:27 AM

He was?! *looks up*

What the... Okay, I watched the whole series maybe a year ago... Or so I thought. I have, somehow, inadvertently missed a bunch of episodes.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#46341: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:07:06 AM

Kraven is probably my favorite Spider-Man villain but I feel his greatest story (Kraven's Last Hunt) requires him to be introduced first. Kraven's Last Hunt is sort of triggered by Kraven's mind unravelling as he fails to capture Spider-Man so many times. That story only functions if he fights Spidey more than once in the movies. If he's introduced as already completely bonkers in his hunt for Spider-Man the story loses a lot of its punch.

He'd work as a secondary villain of a first movie, then do Kraven's Last Hunt in the second or third.

If you ask me, Mr. Negative, the duality-of-good-and-evil-based villain with the powers to influence people's goodness and evil and employ negative energy to mess things up, would be a great choice. Have Ken Watannabe play him and I'm sold.

But on Kraven, what I always wanted to see is a Crocodile Hunter esque mockumentary with Kraven going around New York with a (probably kidnapped and forced to work for him) camera crew, lecturing the viewer on the wildlife of the big apple and the many dangerous creatures he has to hunt for a living, like the ellusive Spider-Man.

edited 13th Nov '15 8:10:26 AM by Gaon

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46342: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:14:08 AM

But on Kraven, what I always wanted to see is a Crocodile Hunter esque mockumentary with Kraven going around New York with a (probably kidnapped and forced to work for him) camera crew, lecturing the viewer on the wildlife of the big apple and the many dangerous creatures he has to hunt for a living, like the ellusive Spider-Man

Only if Peter Parker gets his own dance number.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#46343: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:16:31 AM

[up][up] Direct adaptations of specific comic book stories are pretty rare anyways. Civil War for example is going to have some significant changes to it's premise.

A hypothetical Spider-Man movie with Kraven as the primary antagonist would draw influences from many different appearances on top of adding it's own flavor to the character, even if the movie is subtitled "Kraven's Last Hunt".

edited 13th Nov '15 8:16:57 AM by Falrinn

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#46344: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:31:59 AM

Ken Watannabe is a great actor but Martin Li/Mr. Negative is Chinese- so I don't know, maybe Chow Yun-Fat? (although, there's already some All Asians Are Alike with the character since he has Ninja enforcers).

I think he'd be a good choice especially if the MCU uses the more modern Norman Osborne (ie the completely evil one). Because Negative has similar disassociate identity disorder issues as the traditional/original Osborne.

Also, I meant to comment when I brought up Overdrive recently (who received his powers from him). Negative's powers are (now) tied to Cloak and Dagger, and he and a lot of the "street level" characters (i.e. Purple Man, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, etc.) could really easily have a common Meta Origin- you could say that they were all exposed to different versions of a chemical/drug. You could even say in some of the cases that it was some kind of drug made by combining that with Extremis.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#46345: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:45:08 AM

When Spiderman comes out Peter will be 17 and only 3 years of crime fighting with no trained experience, unless Civil War proves otherwise, by those around him. Hmmmm this would be interesting to see when he fights against his baddies. I think they should go big rather than a low tier. Also I wonder what they will do with Eddie Brock.

I think Wasp should be in Spideman because it's thematic and would reveal something new about her as she interacts with a teenager.

edited 13th Nov '15 8:51:51 AM by xbimpy

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46346: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:47:14 AM

[up][up]Chinese villains dont exist in the MCU....

edited 13th Nov '15 8:47:34 AM by nervmeister

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46347: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:48:10 AM

Whatever they do, I hope they take their time. I hope that the introduce Norman Osborn and wait at least one movie (better two) before he becomes the Green Goblin. I hope that they built up Spider-man's rogue gallery step by step.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#46348: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:54:11 AM

Green goblin hasn't received justice yet like Dr doom

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#46349: Nov 13th 2015 at 8:59:27 AM

[up] Dr. Doom has not, by no definition, received justice in movies.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#46350: Nov 13th 2015 at 9:00:48 AM

The Raimi version wasn't too bad.

Anyway, I'd like to see how they handle Mysterio or Chameleon. Though I'm a bit concerned with how much they'll try to tie the villains to other franchises.


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