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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46301: Nov 10th 2015 at 11:28:46 AM

I haven't watched a single trailer for that reason. It's just the best thing to do when it comes to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46302: Nov 10th 2015 at 12:41:59 PM

[up][up][up]Well I'd like to know what kind of people they allow to speak on the radio in the MCU nowadays.

PCM Since: Oct, 2015
#46303: Nov 10th 2015 at 12:43:50 PM

I feel like if they didn't want to give Jameson a huge supporting role they could show one part where Peter walks in trying to get some money from freelance photography, where Simmons turns around in his chair and says "What the hell are those for? You know how long it's been since somebody tried to sell me pictures? They're obviously shopped anyway. How else could you get photos that high up in such detail?" It'd be a fun cameo and a stab at the old series.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#46304: Nov 10th 2015 at 12:49:41 PM

[up][up] Um...radio isn't some mythical vessel through which only those allowed by some kind of gatekeeper are allowed to broadcast. Pretty much anyone can get a radio show.

I mean, actual radio runs the gamut from NPR to Rush Limbaugh.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46305: Nov 10th 2015 at 1:11:06 PM

Um...radio isn't some mythical vessel through which only those allowed by some kind of gatekeeper are allowed to broadcast. Pretty much anyone can get a radio show.
........................What? sad

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#46306: Nov 10th 2015 at 1:34:53 PM

[up] You didn't know this?

Oh God! Natural light!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46308: Nov 10th 2015 at 1:55:11 PM

[up][up]sad My world is upside-down. What is there to believe in anymo- OF COURSE I KNOW THAT!! I was just being cute and playing along! That's all. [lol]

[up] Checking him out on Youtube right now. He's talking about the movie, SPECTRE. He says he just about loves it because it raises real world awareness of a nebulous organization trying to covertly take over the world. Also, something about dangerous parasites in the body. Kind of surreal.

edited 10th Nov '15 3:27:31 PM by nervmeister

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46309: Nov 10th 2015 at 3:28:29 PM

Remember True Capitalist Radio, anyone?

edited 10th Nov '15 3:28:38 PM by Anomalocaris20

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#46312: Nov 10th 2015 at 5:54:24 PM

Which is weird because thats the primary function of dicks

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#46314: Nov 11th 2015 at 12:02:59 PM

Heh.

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#46315: Nov 11th 2015 at 12:10:01 PM

So is there any other show like JJ where the cast and showrunners are almost all female?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#46316: Nov 11th 2015 at 12:13:46 PM

Girls. Orange Is the New Black. Shonda Rhimes' shows. Even before that there was Gilmore Girls.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46317: Nov 11th 2015 at 12:14:53 PM

Not the showrunners, but Orphan Black features a cast composed of almost entirely of female characters. There are dudes, but they're outnumbered by the women and the main focus of the plot is on the women.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46318: Nov 11th 2015 at 1:16:19 PM

[up] To be fair, they are almost all played by the same actress, though.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#46319: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:07:29 PM

That doesn't make them not their own characters. In fact, that's kind of the entire point.

(Also, it makes Tatiana Maslany an acting god, because she is pulling all of the weight on that show.)

In other news, Peyton Reed is saying that with Ant-Man and The Wasp (which he is still in negotiations to direct, but is probably going to get the job), he plans to "be loud" in regard to making sure Hope gets equal face time in promotions and merchandise.

Woo!

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46320: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:11:53 PM

Yay Hope!!

Yay Peyton Reed!!

edited 11th Nov '15 2:12:06 PM by higherbrainpattern

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46321: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:38:29 PM

That doesn't make them not their own characters. In fact, that's kind of the entire point.
Yes, it's a win in the "whole bunch of female characters" aspect, but not in the "whole bunch of female actors" part.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#46322: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:40:55 PM

Yeah, the goal of diversity is twofold—more great female and minority characters for female and minority viewers to connect to, and more jobs for women and minorities in the entertainment industry.

Orphan Black, by necessity, can't really fulfill that second one on screen. Do we know how well it does behind the scenes?

edited 11th Nov '15 2:41:28 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#46323: Nov 11th 2015 at 8:40:28 PM

I mean it also has plenty of important female or minority characters not played by Tatiana Maslany. Looking at what wikipedia calls the main cast we have.

  • Tatiana Maslany
  • Dylan Brucefor seasons 1-3
  • Jordan Gavaris
  • Kevin Hanchard
  • Michael Mando for seasons 1 and 2
  • Maria Doyle Kennedy
  • Évelyne Brochu for seaons 1-3
  • Ari Millen
  • Kristian Bruun

So it goes, women (multiple roles), white man, actor playing minority (LGBT) character, ethnic minority man, white man, women, women actor playing minority (LGBT) character, white man (multiple roles), white man. The only remaining main characters that are strait white men are either the male clones, or the husband of one of the female clones. In fact have all the strait white male main characters not been monitors? And thus only important because of their relationship to a female character?

And that's not getting into other key characters like Virginia Coady or Kendall Malone.

edited 11th Nov '15 8:43:34 PM by Silasw

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czhang from Canada Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#46324: Nov 12th 2015 at 9:18:19 AM

I mean it does have some pretty obvious problems re: race, but as far as white gender/sexual minorities go Orphan Black is pretty good.

Sorry if it's come up before, but do we know if Claire is going to appear in JJ at all?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46325: Nov 12th 2015 at 9:25:47 AM

[up] Yes, Claire is going to appear.


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