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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#46201: Nov 8th 2015 at 12:27:11 PM

I believe in reality (I think this was the case with the Chicago Tribune at least) a lot of newspapers have fired their photographer staff members and instead use the Associate Press- so it's like Peter wouldn't be out of a job (since he never worked directly for the Bugle), but his job would no longer exist.

I suppose theoretically that his ability to get great photos of Spider-Man could mean that the paper would still pay him, but changes in the newspaper industry means that rather than being a steady (if poorly paying) job, his photography is something that only really works if he's a teenager living with his grandmother and it's a source of extra cash.

edited 8th Nov '15 12:29:48 PM by Hodor2

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46202: Nov 8th 2015 at 1:07:38 PM

Peter is more or less a Paparazzi. And those certainly still exist. And they still sell exclusive photos to certain newspaper. The only question is which always didn't make much sense, why should Peter sell to the one paper which is always ruining his reputation.

And newspapers still have their own photographers they send to certain events. They are not exactly on the payroll, they are paid for every event they go to.

edited 8th Nov '15 1:08:34 PM by Swanpride

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46203: Nov 8th 2015 at 1:26:44 PM

I really liked ASM's take on Peter being a photographer, in that he was on the yearbook staff at his high school.

edited 8th Nov '15 1:27:01 PM by higherbrainpattern

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#46204: Nov 8th 2015 at 1:32:28 PM

Forgot about that. That's clever.

Was also thinking of a comparison with Clark Kent. Not sure how long this has been the case, but he's often shown to be a journalist of some note and I think at times a reporter on tv (which does rather stretch the believability of Clark Kenting).

It's a lot more plausible that Clark could have a career from what he does than Peter- although I guess it makes some sense due to the fact that Peter is the ultimate loser and suffers from Samaritan Syndrome and Clark has the kind of powers (super-everything) that allow him to maintain a career and fight crime/save the world.

edited 8th Nov '15 1:33:01 PM by Hodor2

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#46205: Nov 8th 2015 at 1:34:50 PM

I know a lot of journalistic photographers, but yes they tend to be freelancers and, a running trend I've observed, is for them to do something else at the journal other than just pictures. Writing a column, for example.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46206: Nov 8th 2015 at 2:47:49 PM

Tony Stark: "How in the hell is the Bugle getting such close shots of me while I'm at least 60 stories in the air?....."

edited 8th Nov '15 3:00:51 PM by nervmeister

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#46207: Nov 8th 2015 at 3:37:47 PM

[up] That's something I've always wondered - surely Peter's done some shots that would have been impossible for him to make without him being...well, Spider-Man.

Oh God! Natural light!
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#46208: Nov 8th 2015 at 4:04:43 PM

I'm happy for stories where Peter, as spider-man, breaks into film sets and the Avenger tower just to get photos of Tony Stark with food in his moustache.

Tony is endlessly frustrated by this but at a loss, and not all that keen on having another conversation with Jolly Jay Johanna Jameson Junior; who Tony finds to be endlessly annoying.

Oh god I want JJJ Jr and Tony in the same scene so bad.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#46209: Nov 8th 2015 at 4:47:14 PM

[up]I'd pay to see these two exchange dialogues XD

On a note, I really wonder how they will replace JK Simmons in JJJ's role. That might prove difficult.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#46210: Nov 8th 2015 at 4:48:05 PM

I hope they don't. He's got time to grow back his mustache, right?

My various fanfics.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#46211: Nov 8th 2015 at 5:22:43 PM

He is still eager for the role.

I would love for JJJ to be mayor of NYC like he is in the comics though, and have him appear in the Netflix shows.

But I really love the thought that everything the world thinks about Tony Stark, Tony thinks about Jolly Jay Johnna Jameson Junior.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46212: Nov 8th 2015 at 5:54:49 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Pretty much. And Jameson would probably be too drunk on the revenue Peter's "miracle shots" would be raking in to care to question how he pulled it off. Though I cant help but wonder if any of the rest of the Bugle (particularly jealous coworkers) got suspicious.

[up][up][up]I'm still not averse to the idea of Hugh Laurie in the role. Yeah, he might not bring quite the same energy to the role as Simmons did, but I think he could do it justice in his own way.

edited 8th Nov '15 6:03:22 PM by nervmeister

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#46213: Nov 8th 2015 at 5:57:46 PM

I think there was a joke about that once. Peter's response was that he hung out a window.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#46214: Nov 8th 2015 at 6:09:37 PM

I've suggested Nick Offerman. Or if race-lifted, Keith David.

Laurie does rather look like Simmons though.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46215: Nov 8th 2015 at 6:30:51 PM

[up]David could totally work. If Crash is anything to go by, he can play the comically blunt boss man quite well. Haven't seen much of Offerman's work though, so I cant say whether or not I'm on board with him.

edited 8th Nov '15 6:31:30 PM by nervmeister

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#46216: Nov 8th 2015 at 6:37:58 PM

I mean, it'd be very difficult to top Simmons, and I'd love to see more of him, but I am interested in seeing what other actors could do with the role.

Oh God! Natural light!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46217: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:00:10 PM

At first I thought that nobody could replace JK Simmons. But then Keith David was suggested and...

...yeah, totally. Keith David for J Jonah Jameson!

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#46218: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:11:54 PM

[up] Forget Jameson. Now I need him in everything!

Oh God! Natural light!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#46219: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:13:24 PM

The downside is they wouldn't be able to do this. At least, not as easily.

Seriously though, I want Keith David in the MCU so bad. Maybe as Moses Magnum, reimagined as a smooth Smart Guy weapons dealer?

edited 8th Nov '15 7:13:59 PM by KnownUnknown

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#46220: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:14:25 PM

[up][up][up] That scene in Community was priceless. And yes, Keith David would be perfect as, well, anyone in the MCU.

edited 8th Nov '15 7:14:39 PM by DeathsApprentice

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#46221: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:21:28 PM

#KeithDavidForSpiderman

I would be OK with all the new Spider-Man movies if that was the case.

edited 8th Nov '15 7:21:36 PM by AlleyOop

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46222: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:26:08 PM

Sam L Jackson as Sam L Jackson with an eyepatch is now looking like even more of a mistake.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#46223: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:28:29 PM

[up] Hey, it was in the contract. I'm not complaining. There are other places for Keith David.

Oh God! Natural light!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46224: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:29:29 PM

Keith David as J Jonah Jameson meets Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury. They talk about who would play them in the movies. "Probably some white people," they say.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46225: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:37:47 PM

[up][lol] Okay. Now that's a meta joke I want to hear.

Seriously though, David as Fin Fang Foom (for Iron Man 4), cause he would sound awesome as a dragon and he's perhaps the only who could announce himself by that ridiculous name and STILL intimidate us. Maybe

edited 8th Nov '15 7:47:56 PM by nervmeister


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