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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Or, he's 92, and is well past the point of giving a fuck what anyone actually thinks of him, saying whatever he's feeling at any given moment.
Also, it's not like Stan wasn't already walking the walk. Don't forget that he's the creator of the first black mainstream superhero (Black Panther).
edited 28th Oct '15 9:29:46 PM by BadWolf21
He may have been talking about deliberately race lifting for diversity reasons. The Human Torch was race lifted because they had a quality actor they wanted to play him,, who happened to be black, not because they decided they wanted to make him black so as to make the cast more diverse.
That or he's Stan Lee and he can say what he likes, because he's Stan Lee.
edited 28th Oct '15 9:30:28 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThe point they were making was that he was cast for reasons other than just wanting some diversity so the entire team didn't end up white, which is the stance Stan Lee seemed to take.
In the same way the Word of God stance was that they didn't write Heimdall's role for a black man, they just cast Idris Elba because he's Idris Fucking Elba.
edited 28th Oct '15 9:33:29 PM by comicwriter
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Just pointing out that, like with any other casting, being a good actor is not the only thing that got him the part.
In fact, being good is rarely what gets you a part. It's what doesn't not get you a part. Actually getting cast very often has exactly nothing to do with how good you are (because there are people just as good or better than you auditioning) and lots to do with whether you are ineffably "right" for it.
edited 28th Oct '15 9:46:39 PM by BadWolf21
The theory I'd heard for a while is that Drax assumed she was dead but really she was turned over to Thanos so he could raise her. Which is slightly similar to her comic origin except it was Thanos' dad who took her in.
I feel this might be the case because Gunn made a comment about how Thanos has more kids we haven't seen yet, and some of them are worse than Nebula.
edited 28th Oct '15 9:49:46 PM by comicwriter
I've been reading Busiek's run on Avengers, and there's a running subplot where people rally outside Avengers Mansion because the current roster is all-white. In-universe, those people are painted as petty ingrates for complaining that the group saving the world monthly isn't up to their diversity standards. I know a lot of folks in this thread care about this topic, and it made me wonder: if you lived in the Marvel universe would Avengers diversity still be as important to you?
edited 28th Oct '15 10:08:31 PM by FoxBoxKid
Make mine Marvel.In-universe it probably wouldn't matter to me but I can see why it's treated as an issue. As Scott Lobdell put it, a team that calls itself "Earth's mightiest heroes" that has nothing but white people and a robot seems awkward.
Yeah they were ultimately depicted as correct since when they did have a big racial debate about the makeup of the team, pretty much everyone but Iron Man suggested that the team needed more racial diversity. And even then Tony ended up backing down after a while.
edited 28th Oct '15 10:16:36 PM by comicwriter
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Unless it was all-white specifically because the Avengers were denying access to anyone not white from joining, then there should be no issue. Diversity in media, or lack thereof, draws people's ire because there's someone, such as a writer or director, deliberately choosing to include or exclude specific groups out-of-universe. Real life doesn't have out-of-universe reasons, so whatever happens happens.
edited 28th Oct '15 10:20:25 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!edited 28th Oct '15 10:30:08 PM by alliterator
That was a plot point since the Avengers Depending on the Writer either work for the government or cooperate with them in exchange for government clearance. That meant they had to apply to equal opportunity hiring practices like any other government institution.
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Shit, you
'ed me. The most obvious choice? Adam Warlock. I could totally have seen him in that part.
Plus depending on how they played it he could have tied into Infinity War.
As for how they would cash their checks: Tony Stark probably has some way to transfer funds that is both totally legal and completely anonymous. Probably. In any case, it's not really an issue.
In fact, for the new New Avengers book, Marvel released their salary information
and it's pretty freakin' generous. Bobbi DaCosta is a good boss, apparently.
edited 28th Oct '15 10:40:42 PM by alliterator
It's not sounding too dissimilar from movies with Monochrome Casting where people go "but what if there were genuinely no non-white people good for the part" for each passing one. This is fiction. There's only no non-white applicants in such a 'verse if that's what the author writes. And if that's so, they could have written some instead of maintaining their own fictional status quo.
edited 28th Oct '15 10:41:41 PM by Tuckerscreator
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Realistically, yeah, there's going to be non-white applicants. And probability dictates that at least some of them are going to meet all the criteria for being hired. So unless the Avengers are discriminating along racial lines, in which case the earth is doomed because some of them are godlike, the odds of their team remaining all-white is negligibly low.
But the hypothetical case I presented was the extremely unlikely event that there really were no non-white applicants, in which case I don't see what you can do short of conscription.
edited 28th Oct '15 10:47:05 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

I imagine it's a matter of "should", not an absolute.
"You should create new characters rather than race lift existing ones, but I won't stop you from making Human Torch black, especially since it's a four-lead movie."
That or he's just getting forgetful in his old age.
edited 28th Oct '15 9:23:21 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!