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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#45526: Oct 27th 2015 at 9:10:39 PM

Not exactly MCU-related, but since Spider-Man and Emma Stone have been discussed at the moment...

Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone broke up.

sad

EDIT: Awkward and bitter page topper is awkward and bitter...

edited 27th Oct '15 9:11:29 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#45527: Oct 27th 2015 at 9:26:40 PM

[up]That happened a long time ago and that's a real shame but whatever, ain't my business to poke in their lives.

edited 27th Oct '15 9:27:02 PM by Tuckerscreator

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#45528: Oct 27th 2015 at 10:13:31 PM

Huh. I didn't even realize they were together in the first place.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#45529: Oct 27th 2015 at 10:15:02 PM

MFW celebrity break-ups:

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#45530: Oct 28th 2015 at 12:07:26 AM

But besides that, your female star being 6'3" means that the rest of your movie is going to be extraordinarily hard to cast.
How does that follow exactly?

Chris Hemsworth is 6'3. Was it extraordinarily hard to cast Thor?

edited 28th Oct '15 12:07:43 AM by Mukora

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45531: Oct 28th 2015 at 12:11:28 AM

Yeah, Geena Davis is six feet tall and Long Kiss Goodnight was an awesome action film.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#45532: Oct 28th 2015 at 12:15:02 AM

I think they're referring to how the Iron Man movies have to use camera tricks because Robert Downey Jr. is... *googles* ...exactly the same height as Gwyneth Paltrow. Huh. Never mind. Guess it must be the heels.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#45533: Oct 28th 2015 at 12:16:27 AM

If the idea is that the male actors in the movie would have to be taller than her, then I'm calling bullshit.

That's really the only reason I can think of, though.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45534: Oct 28th 2015 at 12:19:08 AM

Actually, I think it's because directors like to have all actors of the same height, so they can all fit into frame. So that's how you have behind-the-scenes pictures of tiny Gillian Anderson on X-Files standing on a box next to the gigantic David Duchovney so both of their faces are in the same frame.

edited 28th Oct '15 12:19:32 AM by alliterator

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#45535: Oct 28th 2015 at 12:31:02 AM

But, again, Thor didn't bother with that. 6'3 Chris Hemsworth had plenty of scenes with Natalie Portman and Kat Dennings, who are both 5'3.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45536: Oct 28th 2015 at 12:49:12 AM

Again: they probably stood on boxes when they were all in the same shot (and you couldn't see their feet). Or they used camera tricks to put them in the same shot (hence why things get all twisty).

edited 28th Oct '15 12:51:27 AM by alliterator

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#45537: Oct 28th 2015 at 1:01:46 AM

I think they're referring to how the Iron Man movies have to use camera tricks because Robert Downey Jr. is... *googles* ...exactly the same height as Gwyneth Paltrow. Huh. Never mind. Guess it must be the heels.

Never believe the officially stated celebrity male heights. It's usually exaggerated by an inch or two. Especially actors that claim to be average height.

RDJ is an inch shorter than 5 foot 9.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#45539: Oct 28th 2015 at 1:21:41 AM

Oh man, I'm towering over Iron Man.

Excellent.

Though that means I could never fit into the Iron Man suit. Damn.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45540: Oct 28th 2015 at 2:12:32 AM

They pull tricks with the size of the various avengers all the time...not to mention all the effort they put into hiding how much bigger than Hunter Bobbi really is.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#45541: Oct 28th 2015 at 5:39:20 AM

And they can make 15 million Batman movies, but one hypothetical Miles Morales movie would oversaturate the comic book movie market? Somehow I doubt that.

That's not what I said. First off, we already know for a fact that the next Spider-Man movie will star Peter, so the earliest a Miles Morales movie could come out would be, what, May 2020? Look, I'm not one of those naysayers who thinks the superhero genre's going to crash and burn anytime soon, but I do think its popularity will peak at some point once the novelty's completely worn off.

Five years (or longer) is a long time. Miles hasn't even been around for five years yet. How do you know we're not going to get a Spider-Gwen movie or a Silk movie or a Spider-Girl movie or a Spider-Man 2099 movie, etc, etc? Not every non-Peter Spider-Man is getting a movie (Well, unless they do Spider-Verse: The Movie...).

All I'm trying to say is you can't point to any random comic book character with no officially-announced movie in development and say, "They're definitely getting a movie."

Also, to be fair, there was about an 8-year gap between Batman & Robin and Batman Begins, whereas somehow I doubt we'll be getting a gap quite that long between Marvel movies anytime soon.

edited 28th Oct '15 5:43:37 AM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#45542: Oct 28th 2015 at 5:43:25 AM

I would watch the heck out of Spider-Verse: The Movie.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#45543: Oct 28th 2015 at 5:44:25 AM

Me, too. Just so long as they cut back on all the alternate Spider-Man killings.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45544: Oct 28th 2015 at 5:49:32 AM

Yeah, the craze will peak at one point, but that doesn't mean that it will end from one day to another. The thing is that even a truly bad movie can't stop Marvel because, well, even if one movie bombs, there will be at least one in post-production, one during production and one in pre-production at the same time. So one bomb won't result in an immediate stop of releases, and if the ones which are scheduled are reasonable successful, well, crisis averted. There has to be a string of financial bombs for Marvel to stop, and considering that good-will the studio has with the audience, a string of bad movies beforehand.

I guess we will have just to wait and see.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#45545: Oct 28th 2015 at 6:56:05 AM

Yeah, Marvel would have to make quite a long string of bad movies in a row to kill the superhero genre altogether. I'd be genuinely shocked if that ever happened.

The smartest thing Marvel's doing right now is making movies like Got G that are really different and incorporate other genres. Audiences can't get sick of Marvel movies if they're all really different from each other. That'd be like audiences getting sick of Pixar movies.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45546: Oct 28th 2015 at 8:51:23 AM

[up]That too. They seem to be determined to cover every genre possible between the movies and TV shows.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#45547: Oct 28th 2015 at 9:04:46 AM

Miles needs a movie. So does Kamala. So the Young Avengers, at some point. That's all I'm saying.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#45548: Oct 28th 2015 at 9:08:59 AM

I still think I'd be more interested in seeing younger characters on a TV show instead.

There's just more time for high school drama that way. There's more time for Wake Up, Go to School, Save the World, instead of having to compress that structure into only two hours, and that's something I think the genre is missing right now.

EDIT: Also, you get them as young characters for a much longer amount of time. With movies, where you can do one every two years at the fastest, you rapidly age a high school character out of high school.

edited 28th Oct '15 9:09:53 AM by BadWolf21

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45549: Oct 28th 2015 at 10:32:50 AM

On a different note, Ant-man is expected to cross the 500,000,000 mark today...it is also by now the third highest grossing Franchise starter for Marvel after the unreachable Got G and close behind Iron Man.

I really don't get why so many people still claim that it was a box office disappointment.....

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

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