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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45051: Oct 20th 2015 at 10:44:35 AM

[up] Yes, it does. If you didn't tear up during "We...are...Groot," you have no soul.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#45052: Oct 20th 2015 at 10:47:57 AM

Its not like he said it the same way every time. Apparently the script had a lot about what kind of nuance each line was supposed to have.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45053: Oct 20th 2015 at 10:52:20 AM

Also, he did it in different languages for the different dubs. Yep, that's all him.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45054: Oct 20th 2015 at 10:53:02 AM

[up]Not all. He did, I think, nine languages.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45055: Oct 20th 2015 at 10:53:53 AM

Wasn't there something where the script had what he was actually trying to say? It's not just a generic line. He was trying to convey different things every time he said it.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45056: Oct 20th 2015 at 10:53:55 AM

Still, 9 different languages is impressive.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#45057: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:02:22 AM

Alliterator: He's also the guy who made Mortal Kombat: Rebirth, the short film that led to the creation of Mortal Kombat: Legacy. And he's Jed Whedon's brother-in-law.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#45058: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:06:02 AM

Vin Diesel's is one of the most impressive voice actings I have ever seem. He needed to convey meaning with his voice alone, with no help from script, and he largely succeeded. You must be really distracted if you didn't notice all the different inflections and intonation on each line.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#45059: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:10:11 AM

On a related note, the MCU needs a telepath simply so we could have a version of this somewhere.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45060: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:11:09 AM

Moon Dragon has telepathy I think.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45061: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:14:27 AM

Hell, Vin Diesel can make you cry with one word:

"Superman."

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45062: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:20:30 AM

But can he make you understand what he feels just with his facial expressions? And that behind a mask?

I doubt he can, but even if he could, I stand to my opinion that actors shouldn't try to use the social media in order to bully the studio into hiring them. Announcing casting decisions is the job of the studio, and one shouldn't even drop hints before the contract is signed.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45063: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:21:52 AM

Except actors have been doing that for a long, long time. It's a negotiation tactic - get the fanbase to want you in that role and you have a better chance.

Saying that the studio should be in charge of everything ever seems to be like saying the actors shouldn't have any say in anything.

edited 20th Oct '15 11:22:32 AM by alliterator

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#45064: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:22:52 AM

[up][up]Bet you my bottom dollar that Mr. Boltagon wont be wearing a mask in the MCU. He may have a tuning fork glued to his forehead though.

edited 20th Oct '15 11:23:26 AM by nervmeister

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#45065: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:31:15 AM

[up][up] Unless it is for a minor movie, which is hinging on some star power (as it was the case with the Deadpool movie, which most likely wouldn't even been made without the media engagement of Ryan Reynolds), I have never seen this work, though. In fact the actor which gets the most media attention tends to be the one who doesn't get the role in the end.

Plus, Vin Diesel is not just saying "hey, I am interested in playing that role", he is practically saying "Marvel wants me and nobody else". Which will end in a very embarrassing situation if Marvel gives the role to someone else. And not for studio.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#45066: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:33:16 AM

The tuning fork is essential.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45068: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:35:42 AM

It's never NOT funny when actors used to playing Bad Ass action heroes show up in family films.

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#45069: Oct 20th 2015 at 11:41:43 AM

He's a Dungeons And Dragons nerd with muscles the size of your head, his own billion-dollar franchise, his own video game studio, and several other franchises that can more or less be summarized as "Vin Diesel blows shit up." He wore the name of his DnD character Melkor - who he named after a character from The Silmarillion - fake-tattooed on his body while filming xXx and had plans to produce a video game about him.

Vin Diesel knows no fear.

edited 20th Oct '15 11:42:47 AM by TobiasDrake

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#45071: Oct 20th 2015 at 12:25:00 PM

I should also point out that playing Groot wasn't JUST voice acting. He's motion-captured as well.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#45072: Oct 20th 2015 at 12:26:28 PM

He even wore stilts to the session if I recall. Dude has passion.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#45073: Oct 20th 2015 at 12:35:07 PM

I'm hoping for the inhuman royal family to be entirely non-Caucasian.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#45074: Oct 20th 2015 at 1:04:49 PM

Maybe with the exception of Medusa, since red hair is pretty rare outside of Europe and North Africa.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#45075: Oct 20th 2015 at 1:09:26 PM

Why can she not be either of those things?

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

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