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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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And on the heroes side, there was Cap shoulder tossing Thor ending with him in pain and looking barely conscious. Then's there's BP armbarring incapacitating Giant Man with H 2 H alone, no heart-shaped herb required.
edited 20th Oct '15 8:37:09 AM by nervmeister
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Not that I want to bring in the whole debate again, but there's more reasons for wanting the Mandarin changed than just pandering to the Chinese market. A lot of people including myself think the character is too outdated and full of Unfortunate Implications to play straight anymore. It's more than just trying to appease China.
As for the new Chinese characters I hope they don't pander too hard to China's Culture Police. Granted it's not that likely since what appeals to the audience and to the government censors isn't the same, not with all the fujoshi in China. But it also means Marvel might be afraid to include openly LGBT characters and other stuff that would get them Banned in China.
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It's implied Bucky is a little empowered and got a bootleg version of Cap's super serum.
edited 20th Oct '15 8:52:45 AM by AlleyOop
Well, we know they acknowledged Crossbones is hilariously outclassed by the Avengers and gave him some sort of robotic exoskeleton to even the odds, so they could try something similar with Zemo.
Or hey maybe he even got the same bootleg super soldier cocktail used on Bucky.
It seems like things are slowly (VERY slowly) moving forward on that front a bit, since it was announced recently that the censors are going to allow a movie about a gay interracial romance to be shown.
edited 20th Oct '15 9:01:51 AM by comicwriter
"Not that I want to bring in the whole debate again, but there's more reasons for wanting the Mandarin changed than just pandering to the Chinese market. A lot of people including myself think the character is too outdated and full of Unfortunate Implications to play straight anymore. It's more than just trying to appease China."
And I'd agree with you had the update of his character in Extremis not happened. Today, he's a calculating, powerful villain with none of the buck-toothed, Yellow Peril caricature-ness from the days of yore. Picture David Xanatos, but asian and with the enough raw power to bang up Tony's armor. That's it!
edited 20th Oct '15 9:03:17 AM by nervmeister
Well, Marvel naturally wants to appease the Chinese market, but hey, every bit of diversity is welcome. It is certainly better than cutting random scenes with doctors into their movies for the foreign release. Hopefully the Avengers will become more international in general, even if the chance of getting a German hero is slim at best.
And the chance that we will get Amadeus Cho one day has just risen. Though I suspect they will use the Inhumans as an vehicle for their Asian characters on the big screen, judging by Ao S.
Though I suspect they will use the Inhumans as an vehicle for their Asian characters on the big screen, judging by AoS.
I...don't see what AOS has to do with it. Because it has two Asian characters? One of them is an Inhuman, yes, but the other is a regular human (well, a regular superspy, but still). And the other Inhuman main character we have is Caucasian.
I think the fact that AOS has two Asian main characters is more up to the fact that one of the showrunners is Maurissa Tancharoen
, who has talked about the fact that Asian people don't get many big roles in movies and television (in fact, she sang a whole song about it called "Nobody's Asian in the Movies").
One of the major new Inhumans is a Chinese girl
so you may be onto something.
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Yes, but they didn't just cast some Asians in the show, but also suggested a connection between Inhumans and Asia. At the very least they established that the Inhuman Gen can turn in everyone, no matter from where he or she is from.
Mmm...Iso sounds like exactly the kind of minor character which might turn up in one of the shows at one point. Not too well known, but with an ability which can be easily translated to screen in a reasonable budget.
edited 20th Oct '15 9:22:53 AM by Swanpride
Yes, but they didn't just cast some Asians in the show, but also suggested a connection between Inhumans and Asia.
The only connection was that one of their bases, Afterlife, was in China (probably, it's never verified). And that base is no longer used anymore.
I mean, that's like saying SHIELD has a connection to Canada since they had a base in Canada.
A quote from Vin Diesel from the Happy Sad Confused Podcast concerning his supposed role in the Inhumans.
“It’s not a matter of me wooing Marvel, it’s a matter of Marvel wooing me. And I love them, but I’m just saying, show me a dope script and show me a great director, all of which I know that Kevin [Feige] is capable of, because he dazzled me when he suggested Groot. […] I thought it was genius. I’m not doing anything just for work. I’m doing things that I can feel passionate about, and that I feel like I can contribute to.”
Okay, I can't be the only one who is getting more and more annoyed by this guy. If I were in Marvel's place, this were the point at which I would hire anyone but him, even if I had been interested beforehand.
The latest entry in Vin Diesel's passion project made $1.5 billion and became the #5 highest grossing film of all time, beating everything Marvel Studios has ever made except the first Avengers. This is a man who can afford to do things for the art, not because a successful studio waved a paycheck under his nose.
edited 20th Oct '15 10:36:12 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.No, because he is advertising himself for a specific role and dropping hints left and right, even though none of the cast of Inhumans are signed on yet. I HATE it when actors angle for specific roles in the social media.
Look, when Marvel wooed Benedict Cumberbatch, he didn't even admit anything when he was directly asked about it. He just said that playing the role would be cool. Which is what an actor should do. Marvel will announce the cast for the movie when they want.
Marvel should just hired Kevin Tancharoen
to direct Inhumans. He's directed a bunch of episodes of Agents of SHIELD and has shown that he can do amazing action sequences. And, like many of the other Marvel directors, he has directed one previous film (the 2009 Fame).

Or the Black Widow vs. Winter Soldier fight. Natasha's the closest thing to Batman we have in this series, being raised from childhood as a spy and assassin, but she still can't take out the Winter Soldier, who's only mildly enhanced by the terms of the MCU (he's got a robot arm and Training from Hell, but that's about it).
edited 20th Oct '15 8:31:06 AM by JBC31187