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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#44902: Oct 15th 2015 at 5:53:35 PM

[up]just the look on Loki's face upon hearing who his brother brought home would be enough for me.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#44903: Oct 15th 2015 at 5:59:14 PM

Ok, everyone probably knows it by now, but what the heck, it's worth sharing again.

Holy Crap, Thor: Ragnarok is officially a team-up movie between Thor and Hulk!

Once again, Marvel Studios reminds us how awesome it is! grin[awesome]grin

Wait, I'm not the only one who's all for this, am I?

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#44904: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:03:47 PM

[up]I'm mostly for this because they cant legally make a solo Hulk film thanks to Universal. So this kind of arrangement is the next best thing.

edited 15th Oct '15 6:04:39 PM by nervmeister

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44905: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:12:46 PM

[up][up]You're a little late. Check the previous page. Or the post above yours.

edited 15th Oct '15 6:13:34 PM by comicwriter

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#44906: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:14:29 PM

I'm sort of excited but I'm really more bewildered since the logical conclusion of Hulk abandoning the Avengers tends to not fall under "scooped up into Thor's end of the world story".

I mean, how did Thor find him? Didn't he already go back to Asgard? Why did he specifically pick up Hulk? Is this how they're going to explain why he wasn't in the Civil War? Why would Banner need to be involved in Asgardian affairs? What do they want with him? Did he make the choice to go there? If so, Why?

Like characterization-wise and logistically this whole thing sort of confuses me. I want to know what the scheme is.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44907: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:23:55 PM

Part of the rumor was that he was abducted at the end of AOU.

edited 15th Oct '15 6:27:03 PM by comicwriter

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#44908: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:30:03 PM

And he just happens to get abducted to one of the other Nine Realms? Geeze, it may actually be better if its just Thor going to him to ask for help.

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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#44909: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:30:18 PM

If Hulk is not going to have a solo film, partnering with Thor is what makes most sense. Power wise he fits in just fine, and a big green monster is not all that conspicuous in Asgard/Nine Realms.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#44910: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:33:12 PM

Don't forget Loki is currently masquerading as Odin and might have a bit of a grudge against the big green guy who smashed him into a pulp. Wouldn't be surprised if he's the one who abducted Hulk.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#44911: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:36:34 PM

You're a little late. Check the previous page. Or the post above yours.

Um, I already acknowledged how I was late in spreading the news.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#44912: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:40:59 PM

Ragnarok better have a scene of Hulk pounding Loki into the floor for old times' sake.

Anyway, don't particularly mind Hulk going the same route as Hawkeye and Black Widow; no solo films, but shows up as supporting character in other people's.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#44913: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:49:48 PM

[up][up][up]Unless the Hulk is absolutely integral to whatever plan he has cooking at the moment, I think Loki is sane enough to not potentially jeopardize it by bringing a formidable enemy he may have a bit of bad blood with closer to him.

edited 15th Oct '15 6:50:05 PM by nervmeister

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#44915: Oct 15th 2015 at 6:55:16 PM

[up]In all seriousness, I think we may get a loose Planet Hulk adaptation for perhaps 1/4 - 1/3 of the movie.

edited 15th Oct '15 7:06:56 PM by nervmeister

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44916: Oct 15th 2015 at 7:09:25 PM

It was said this is a "cosmic road trip" so maybe Thor ends up wherever Hulk has been sent to.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#44917: Oct 15th 2015 at 7:47:45 PM

Why not just leave the Hulk out entirely? That's what AOU implied in my opinion. Banner decided to go into hiding again.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44918: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:01:29 PM

Because Thor 2 kind of sucked and they probably wanted a really good hook to grab people's interest for this one.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#44919: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:12:18 PM

I would love if they just straight up adapted Walter Simonson's Thor run, but it would take waaay too long.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#44920: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:14:34 PM

[up][up]Thor 2 didn't "kind of suck". It was more successful than its predecessor and a lot of people much proffered it to the first one. The movie is bit contentious, sure, but hardly enough so it "needs" a completely new "hook" to grab people. Just doing the same thing and adding more Loki would probably do the job, actually.

edited 15th Oct '15 8:14:46 PM by Heatth

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#44921: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:35:39 PM

The Thor films have always been kinda mediocre, mostly because Thor himself isn't that compelling. The first movie did both too good a job in developing him because by the end he has no real flaws left, and too bad a job because his development is both kinda muted and not especially interesting in and of itself.

Honestly, I feel like if Thor had been more compelling, they could've left Loki's arc especially as it already is and people wouldn't go half as apeshit about him as they do because there'd be something else to look forward to in a Thor film.

Which isn't to say I don't like Jane and Darcy and Sif, but that's mostly because they're female characters in roles that almost always go to dudes. (I mean scientist, for Jane, I mean. Obs love interests are usually women.) The movies don't care much for fleshing them out either.

So yeah, sure, dump Hulk in. Anything to take focus off the dang title character.

edited 15th Oct '15 8:37:37 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44922: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:36:01 PM

[up][up]Not to start a fight but Iron Man 2 made more money than Iron Man 1 and I wouldn't argue that it's a better movie either.

edited 15th Oct '15 8:36:41 PM by comicwriter

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#44923: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:37:15 PM

I wouldn't say that Thor 2 sucked, but I would say that it was...sort of meh. I mean, I liked it. But it squandered a bunch of potential. The Warriors Three and Sif make, like, two seconds of appearances and Malekith, who is this great villain in the comics, is just a generic bad guy. And they wasted Christopher Eccleston in the role!

edited 15th Oct '15 8:38:09 PM by alliterator

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#44924: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:38:04 PM

[up]It had a great ending fight and some decent gags. And Loki is stellar, as always. That's about it.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#44925: Oct 15th 2015 at 8:40:22 PM

I think it sort of suffered from having been recut later on to add more Loki scenes. Or perhaps that saved the movie, I don't know.

In any case, what I'm hearing about Thor: Ragnarok makes it sound much more exciting: from the fact that it might have Valkyrie to it actually having Bruce Banner, it all sounds different from the past two Thor films, which is a good thing.


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