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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#44576: Oct 12th 2015 at 3:52:36 PM

[up]x5 Could the Inhumans movie be done without an audience surrogate? Sure and I'm not going to dispute that. There are many ways to introduce Attilan to the movie-going audience, and having an audience surrogate is just one of them.

But I'm starting with the assumption that Kamala Khan should be introduced as soon as there is a logical place for her character to be. And an audience surrogate in the Inhumans movie feels like a viable place for her.

edited 12th Oct '15 3:52:59 PM by Falrinn

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#44577: Oct 12th 2015 at 3:53:37 PM

Question I asked was getting buried:

So about that Daredevil season 2 tease: Whose skull that got X-Rayed was that?

Anyone want to hear the MCU Luke Cage say the famous catchphrase? SPOILER: It's just about freaking perfect.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#44578: Oct 12th 2015 at 4:02:41 PM

Mellifluous Hannukah? He's got a really nice voice.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#44579: Oct 12th 2015 at 4:23:07 PM

I don't know why but that's not how I imagine Luke Cage sounding.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44580: Oct 12th 2015 at 4:49:59 PM

Colter talks about Luke Cage a little. They're sticking with the idea of him being a fugitive, it sounds like.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#44582: Oct 12th 2015 at 5:27:37 PM

  • Iron Man
  • Iron Man 3
  • Captain America: Civil War

Phase 4 is going to start with something connected to Iron Man.

PCM Since: Oct, 2015
#44583: Oct 12th 2015 at 5:48:12 PM

My money is on Runaways. Hoping for Nova but with Spider-Man coming into the MCU (which will no doubt push him immensely) I feel like Marvel wouldn't see the point in Sam Alexander as a character.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#44584: Oct 12th 2015 at 5:50:40 PM

Regarding Daredevil getting its second season before Luke Cage or Iron Fist, it's kinda like how Iron Man 2 came out before we got Thor or Captain America 1.

Daredevil is the Tony Stark of the Netflix shows. tongue

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#44585: Oct 12th 2015 at 6:00:19 PM

[up][up] Whether or not we see Nova in Phase 4 I think will have a lot to do with how much of the Corps we get in Guardians Vol. 2

[up] Also, as a television series, you can't really say to your entire cast and crew "Okay, be at our beck and call in three years when we're ready to do another one."

Also, the second season of Daredevil does not in any way interfere with Luke Cage or Iron Fist. I think part of the problem is that people are thinking of the Defenders series almost as if they're four seasons of one show leading up to a fifth, crossover season. They're not. They're four separate series leading to a crossover miniseries. So Daredevil's cast and crew working on a second season isn't impacting how quickly the other shows are getting made.

PCM Since: Oct, 2015
#44586: Oct 12th 2015 at 6:02:40 PM

[up] That's another thing, ya. I honestly don't know how they'd properly do Nova after their portrayal in GOTG

PCM Since: Oct, 2015
#44587: Oct 12th 2015 at 6:58:10 PM

I know I'm new here and this is completely out of nowhere, but back before Marvel had the rights to Spidey, was it possible at the time to attempt to use Miles Morales? My reasoning behind this comes from an old studio situation with James Bond, where one studio owned the film rights to a single book and successfully made a film at the same time as another film under the original studio. (I believe the films were "Never Say Never Again" and "Octopussy" but I'm not sure.

In theory, since Miles Morales was created after the deal with Sony was struck giving Sony the film rights to Spider-Man, could Marvel use Miles in place of Peter in the event that Sony wouldn't budge? (I'm sorry if this isn't making any sense.)

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#44588: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:06:08 PM

They could probably use him, but not the name "Spider-Man." Which would make the whole thing moot anyway.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#44589: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:07:41 PM

[up][up] Doubt it, since he's associated primarily with Spider-Man (especially since he actually IS Spider-Man). While we don't know the specifics of these contracts, it does seem to go by who the character is associated with. Galactus=Fantastic Four. Scarlet Witch=Avengers.

EDIT:

Kamala's series doesn't even have twenty issues out yet. The show would run out of source material after about a dozen episodes and have to start making stuff up. Also, there's no way Kamala's stretchy powers could be done justice on a TV budget.

Didn't stop them from making a Guardians Of The Galaxy cartoon, despite the series lasting 25 issues.

edited 12th Oct '15 7:09:39 PM by DrFurball

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#44590: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:19:43 PM

[up] Technically, Guardians of the Galaxy has been around for a long time - the original team (from the year 3000) appeared in 1969 and had a long-running series in 1990s that ran for 62 issues. The team that the movie is based on, however, lasted for 25 issues, plus The Thanos Imperative crossover, then a mini-series called Annihilators, then a new series in 2012. But there are plenty of cosmic storylines they can pull from.

edited 12th Oct '15 7:20:20 PM by alliterator

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44591: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:20:12 PM

In theory, since Miles Morales was created after the deal with Sony was struck giving Sony the film rights to Spider-Man, could Marvel use Miles in place of Peter in the event that Sony wouldn't budge? (I'm sorry if this isn't making any sense.)

It makes sense, don't worry. But that's not how the contracts work. The people who licensed the characters got any future IP as well, which is how (just to use an example) the X-Men movies were able to use a bunch of recent characters. People like Azazel, Ink, Angel II and Darwin were all created way after Marvel signed over the rights in the 90's.

That's another thing, ya. I honestly don't know how they'd properly do Nova after their portrayal in GOTG

Just make it so that the Nova Force is some sort of experimental secret weapon that wasn't widely used before now.

edited 12th Oct '15 7:21:01 PM by comicwriter

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#44592: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:40:28 PM

[up] Or perhaps they'll gain access to it by trying to replicate some of the Power Stone's properties.

The fact is they know Thanos is going to come for the Stone sooner or later, and with most of their conventional defenses destroyed I could see the Xandarians decide to apply the Power Stone itself as a defensive measure.

edited 12th Oct '15 7:41:08 PM by Falrinn

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44593: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:18:08 PM

That's a good theory. Makes sense.

Also as to the Runaways, just as recently as Phase 3's announcement Feige said they still have the script and that it comes up whenever they do discussions about new properties. He said the problem is they don't have enough room to make everything they want, so it could be one of the films in the three new slots.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#44594: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:22:25 PM

Whether or not Runaways works seems to hinge on the state of supervillains in the MCU. We don't really have anything resembling a supervillain team, yet. But that could easily change in the next three years.

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#44595: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:36:15 PM

Going back to the rumour about Hulk co-starring in Thor Ragnarok, I'm having mixed feelings on the idea. Sure, it would be nice for Hulk to have more screentime in the MCU, but on the other hand, if there's any hero that I think should co-star with Thor, it's Beta Ray Bill.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#44596: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:41:56 PM

Runaways is interesting because it uses one thing that the movies can't use (mutants) and another than the movies haven't used at all yet (time travel). Mutants can easily be replaced with Inhumans and having Molly Hayes be an Inhuman would be interesting way to introduce them after the Inhumans movie, but having time travel would essentially be even more interesting.

But honestly, all I want to see is Old Lace being awesome. And Molly. And everyone else. Seriously, it would be awesome.

edited 12th Oct '15 8:42:21 PM by alliterator

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#44597: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:48:20 PM

Presumably it won't be that hard to use time travel after the Time Stone is introduced.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#44598: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:54:09 PM

I was going to say that there wasn't any time travel in the initial volume, but remembered that the Yorkes are time travelers.

Not sure what to do with them- they fit a setting that is more Fantasy Kitchen Sink than the MCU.

Also, I'd probably change Karolina's parents to being Kree or Xandarian criminals.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#44599: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:55:46 PM

I don't think they have to change it to Kree or Xanderian - we already know a ton of aliens are out there courtesy of Guardians of the Galaxy. I mean, it would actually be pretty interesting we saw some Majesterians in GOTG Vol. 2.

As for the Fantasy Kitchen Sink aspect - yeah, but I suspect that won't be as much of a problem after Doctor Strange.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#44600: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:57:13 PM

Karolina would be fine since the Skrull is her girlfriend, IIRC.

As for the Hulk rumor, it sounds weird, but Joblo has been very good with their info about the last three MCU movies. So they might be right this time too.


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