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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#43926: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:34:15 PM

Avengers: Assemblage of Ultron. cool

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43927: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:36:25 PM

Tony Stark in: Earth's Mightiest Herpes.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#43928: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:37:04 PM

The Avengers! in: Tony Fucks Up Big Time

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43929: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:47:25 PM

The Avengers in: goddamnit tony this is the fourth movie about you fucking up

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43930: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:50:21 PM

Did he really fuck up Iron Man 1, though? Stane was going under his nose.

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#43931: Oct 5th 2015 at 6:03:05 PM

Has no one considered the relatively simple Ultron Initiative?

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43932: Oct 5th 2015 at 6:05:50 PM

I'm not sure. I think it counts as indirect fucking up, if you believe that Stane wouldn't kill the golden goose if Tony was less unbearable. I don't want to say that Tony deserved to be killed, or that he brought it on himself, because that's going into "Alderaan shot first" territory, and I honestly don't think Tony deserved it.

Now that I think it over, I guess my judgement was tainted by Iron Man 2, where Tony deliberately plays up his asshole side.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43933: Oct 5th 2015 at 6:12:52 PM

Has no one considered the relatively simple Ultron Initiative?

I don't think it was ever actually called the "Ultron Initiative" in the movie. It was just called the "Ultron Program" or "Ultron."

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#43934: Oct 5th 2015 at 6:41:53 PM

Yes but as a subtitle to the movie it would have not sounded ridiculous while serving as a callback to Iron Man.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#43935: Oct 5th 2015 at 7:17:39 PM

Tony stark is a complete fuck up representing all fuck ups

edited 5th Oct '15 7:17:57 PM by xbimpy

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43936: Oct 5th 2015 at 7:23:02 PM

Age of Ultron doesn't sound ridiculous, though, it sounds pretty awesome. And that's why Ultron was trying to bring about - the age of Ultron.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#43937: Oct 5th 2015 at 7:50:06 PM

Ultron = tonys attempt at building an iron man around the world. Age of stark fucking up. I won't live it down!

edited 5th Oct '15 7:56:56 PM by xbimpy

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#43938: Oct 5th 2015 at 8:33:51 PM

[up][up]Age Of Ultron doesn't sound ridiculous but some of the alternate suggested titles were a little clunky.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43939: Oct 5th 2015 at 8:39:55 PM

Ultron rampages because they forgot his birthday. They forgot the age of Ultron.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#43940: Oct 5th 2015 at 8:49:51 PM

Y'know what'd be hilarious and/or possibly awesome?

In a later move, as part of the stinger - BAM - we get a surviving Ultron body talking about the Masters of Evil or somesuch. The fans are freaking out, wondering how this one could have survived after Vision tracking them all down, and so on...

And then, in a German Swiss accent, it explains that Vision couldn't track down Ultron's AI in his body, because it's not Ultron. It's Zola. Somehow.

What a twist! Brilliant, I say!

Mostly joking, though I do think that would be an interesting, if easily made stupid if done wrong, idea. If they could affort an Ultron-bot on tv, that could be an interesting thing to do in Agents of SHIELD or something.

edited 5th Oct '15 8:50:16 PM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43941: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:00:00 PM

I do kinda wonder how Zola and Ultron would get along, or lack thereof.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43942: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:09:52 PM

"hat's why Ultron was trying to bring about - the age of Ultron."

I know this sound silly but the movie could have a title drop somewhere.

"The Avengers in: goddamnit tony this is the fourth movie about you fucking up"

I have say a lot of time that by having 5 villians being evil tony is clear he should be the villian already, them I remenber the next movie is civil war...evil grin

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43943: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:37:53 PM

I know this sound silly but the movie could have a title drop somewhere.

Saying the exact words "age of Ultron" would have been silly, though. Ultron did drop a big hint to that, however, when he said that the only things left on this world would be made of metal.

edited 5th Oct '15 9:38:05 PM by alliterator

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43944: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:50:10 PM

[up]But is Ultron, pretty much Evil tony, it woundt be out of chararter to said it, even in a dramatic way.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#43945: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:53:46 PM

A good way around it would be for him to shout something "My Age begins now" or "As your age ends, my age begins"

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43946: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:54:55 PM

I mean, that's pretty much what he said anyway: "Do you see the beauty of it? The inevitability? You rise, only to fall. You, Avengers, you are my meteor, my swift and terrible sword. And the Earth will crack with the weight of your failure. Purge me from your computers, turn my own flesh against me. It means nothing! When the dust settles, the only thing living in this world...will be metal."

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#43947: Oct 5th 2015 at 10:01:31 PM

I know this sound silly but the movie could have a title drop somewhere.

A year ago, covert organizations and iron men ruled.
It was a time of paranoia. It was a world of heroes.
It was the Age of Ultron.
Stark's puppet one day. Stringless savior that night.
Betrayed by the humans I had sworn to protect, forced to walk my path alone through destruction and ruin.
Now, here in Sokovia... I will cleanse the planet, and the world will live again!
I am the herald of a new age.
I am ULTRON!

edited 5th Oct '15 10:02:08 PM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#43948: Oct 5th 2015 at 10:51:30 PM

HA! Marvel agrees with me concerning the Hydra symbol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1yJCg65rYw

I swear, that's a coincidence.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#43949: Oct 5th 2015 at 10:55:36 PM

HOLY SHIT WARD IS MIKE FROM UNTIL DAWN.

My various fanfics.

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