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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#43901: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:40:40 PM

Idk how they will handl dr strange 2. the guy is pretty OP and those he fights are even more OP. by the second time he would be SS and oh boy... the shit he would be able to do O_O they're gonna need elder demons up in this shit

edited 5th Oct '15 2:42:39 PM by xbimpy

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43902: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:42:56 PM

...I have no idea what you just said.

But making a sequel is easy, because Dr. Strange's enemies are always more powerful than he is. Nightmare, Dormammu, Umar, etc.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#43903: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:48:17 PM

dr strange is very very very very very very very very very powerful. by the time his second movie comes he would be even stronger. therefore they need to compensate and these guys have a power level over 900000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, which is stronger than Stranges.

we both just said the same thing. Now here comes the problem on how to make such characters fight in live action

edited 5th Oct '15 2:50:47 PM by xbimpy

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#43904: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:55:16 PM

What the hell is up with you and the way you type?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43905: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:55:36 PM

Except Doctor Strange is not "very very (etc) powerful." If the movie is an origin story, then it might just be about him first becoming Sorcerer Supreme and he won't have the experience or power necessary to face some of those villains. And even then, there are plenty of villains that have more power than Doctor Strange - he is not omnipotent.

edited 5th Oct '15 2:55:44 PM by alliterator

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#43906: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:56:14 PM

you don't get the reference? Dr Strange's foes have a power level over 9 thousand!

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43907: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:56:49 PM

No, I got the reference. It just wasn't funny.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#43908: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:59:20 PM

it wasn't meant to be funny. It was just me typing. me simply being me. im random and weird

edited 5th Oct '15 3:01:00 PM by xbimpy

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#43910: Oct 5th 2015 at 3:13:18 PM

Either way, the fact that Strange and his enemies have a different kinds of power is very important - strength, in this case, isn't necessarily interchangeable. Regardless of whether they're more or less powerful than the Avengers and their enemies, they fight in a different venue using methods of attack or defense and measures of power that are not the same as other characters in the same universe. Magic must defeat magic, and all that.

At the same time, what allows Strange to fight Dormammu likely wouldn't be as effective against, say, Ultron or even Thanos. The same things that allow him to defeat Dormammu might not even be effective against any of his other enemies like Shuma or Mordo. If done well, the key to his magic would be versatility, not raw power.

edited 5th Oct '15 3:14:00 PM by KnownUnknown

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43911: Oct 5th 2015 at 3:27:00 PM

[up]Which make me ask...how magic in marvel works? it dosent see to be a big thing anyway.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#43912: Oct 5th 2015 at 3:48:54 PM

Xbimpy fell out of a timewarp from 2002.

[lol]

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#43913: Oct 5th 2015 at 3:51:42 PM

Really, it was more of the "Minor Annoyance of Ultron" if you think about it.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#43914: Oct 5th 2015 at 3:57:37 PM

I wouldn't call it minor, since Ultron and the response to him basically leads to Inhumans getting targeted and captured in Agents of Shield Season 3, as well as leading to the main conflict of civil war.

But yeah, an age the Ultron crisis was not.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43915: Oct 5th 2015 at 3:57:48 PM

Sure and the first movie was the "Minor Annoyance of Loki."

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#43917: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:22:39 PM

Guardians of the Airspace Above a Single Planet.

Captain America: The All-Seasons Soldier.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43918: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:38:56 PM

It was called Age of Ultron because it was about the threat of Ultron. What were they supposed to call it? Ultron Takes Sokovia?

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43919: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:42:07 PM

Yes.

Or, maybe Ultron Attacks.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43920: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:50:07 PM

Sounds silly. Age of Ultron sounds much better.

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#43921: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:52:46 PM

It maybe not have lasted an age but the threat Ultron was presenting wasn't just him killing people or building robots. He was an existential threat, determined to wipe out humanity and see it replaced by a new mechanical form of life.

Even Loki in Avengers wanted to keep us around so we could kiss his boots or whatever.

Argue about the execution but the title works.

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#43922: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:53:14 PM

Ultron attacks works nice.

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43923: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:00:22 PM

''Beware: Ultron!"

The exclamation point is so you know he's dangerous.

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#43924: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:23:11 PM

  • The Hulk: Rage of Ultron
  • Black Widow: Cage of Ultron
  • Scarlet Witch: Mage of Ultron
  • The Vision: Sage of Ultron

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43925: Oct 5th 2015 at 5:31:15 PM

Power Man: Luke Cage of Ultron

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