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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Darren "Crosstron" was pretty interesting. I thought the "daddy issues" angle with him was done better than Loki, IMO. And his descent into crazytown was both entertaining and tragic.
Here's hoping that Klaw will be memorable for more than just "Hey, that's Andy Serkis!"
edited 29th Sep '15 11:00:40 AM by nervmeister
"I think we broke Joss Whedon!"
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He just needs time to get better, right?
edited 29th Sep '15 11:02:36 AM by nervmeister
Okay. Maybe all the quips were a bit grating, and yeah the love story was unexpected (though far from the most annoying I've had to put up with in a popcorn flick), but is that really enough reason to look on in sadistic glee as the executive whip shatters Whedon's psyche?
edited 29th Sep '15 11:10:05 AM by nervmeister
I didn't mind most of the quips at all, though they did sometimes feel out of place when coming out of Ultron's mouth.
What I did mind was how out of character Black Widow was written.
And I'm glad Joss Whedon's left. Hopefully it stays that way, because good riddance.
edited 29th Sep '15 11:26:19 AM by higherbrainpattern
Maybe it was just some Hidden Depths finally coming to the surface. Now I'm no expert, but it wouldn't be crazy to think that getting one's womb forcibly removed isn't an easy thing to deal with, even for a trained spy/killer.
Yeah, I mean, I liked Whedon's take on their personalities and the passion he had in bringing the universe to the next, but I'm definitely not sorry he's gone.
Given Winter Soldier, I think the new team will give the characters and the plot a gravity that they sorely need. I was going to make a pun here about gravity and Sokovia, but I couldn't think of anything.
For one, Whedon's take on the Avengers as always being one misunderstanding away from being at each other's throats needs to not continue in future movies. He sees the team dynamic as optimally being group of primadonnas that couldn't possibly work together yet somehow do, and while that was perfect in Avengers 1 it brought down the characters in Ultron imo - especially on the road to Civil War since it makes it look like Cap and Tony were ultimately going to come to blows about something anyway, rather than the conflict itself being as meaningful as it should be.
edited 29th Sep '15 11:35:34 AM by KnownUnknown
I think she was calling herself a monster because everything had been stripped away from her so she could only become a killing machine, but whatever.
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Yeah, I agree. The whole "ragtag misfits forced to try and get along for the common good" arc has already been done in Avengers 1. So seeing them immediately get pissy with each other again over.....things (Thor necklifting Tony feeling the most out-of-place) felt weird, to say the least.
edited 29th Sep '15 11:45:53 AM by nervmeister
And I'm glad Joss Whedon's left. Hopefully it stays that way, because good riddance.
Gee, it seems like you have some unresolved Whedon issues. Or possibly just issues since, you know, your hatred of Whedon seems completely out of balance with whatever issues you have with the film. (Also, there's a difference between hating a film and hating a filmmaker for making a film you didn't like. One is okay, the other is not.)
Also: Black Widow wasn't calling herself a monster because she couldn't have children. She was calling herself a monster because she was molded to be an assassin. That's pretty clear in the film.
edited 29th Sep '15 11:49:52 AM by alliterator
edited 29th Sep '15 12:01:01 PM by higherbrainpattern
She wasn't calling herself a monster because she was sterile, she was calling herself a monster because she was a dehumanized Child Soldier with a high body count like Bruce just had, and being sterile was the aspect of her history that she thought Bruce could identify the most with at that moment. I'm not saying her writing in that movie was stellar because it honestly was pretty terrible, but that particular instance is a case of Joss Whedon being technically incompetent (bad writing, editing) instead of morally bankrupt.
Also, not directly related but I struggle to see how people on Tumblr seem to think that just because posts saying "I want Joss Whedon to die or get hit by a truck" refer to him in the third person instead of the second and therefore technically aren't harassment they're suddenly OK. Just because "not as bad as" is true doesn't mean something suddenly stops being not OK.
Like, I'm fine with him leaving because I didn't think he did that great of a job with the film. He also has a blatant hard-on for Tony Stark (which does not mean he's a hardcore supporter of imperialism, neoconservatism, or neoliberalism, or anarchocapitalism or whatever) and I'm tired of him having the Avengers bicker with each other.
edited 29th Sep '15 12:09:11 PM by AlleyOop

Unless you're Loki or Agent Coulson or Nick Fury.
Like was said above, neither Loki nor Nick Fury actually died. And Coulson died (even if temporarily), but not for shock value: he pretty clearly was marked as the "heart" of the film and died in order to bring the others together.
None of which applies to War Machine.
Also, I love that Wasp costume and I want them to use it on the Marvel Universe, as opposed to her current weird yellow costume
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edited 29th Sep '15 9:55:10 AM by alliterator