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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#43226: Sep 17th 2015 at 12:41:09 PM

That's fair. Jason Alexander pining for Thor's love would surprise me.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#43227: Sep 17th 2015 at 12:55:14 PM

Well, I was surprised when SLJ turned up. Sif on the other hand was (just like Maria Hill) on my list of characters played by actors who aren't that high-prolific yet.

I wonder if com-guy will turn up at one point.

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#43228: Sep 17th 2015 at 12:57:10 PM

Idle thought: If this was the Star Wars EU, S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Playing Galaga would have a trilogy of novels detailing how his game of Galaga secretly saved the universe by now.

edited 17th Sep '15 12:57:30 PM by TobiasDrake

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#43229: Sep 17th 2015 at 12:58:59 PM

He was playing Galaga during the HYDRA coup, indirectly saving the world when his procrastination delayed the Helicarriers' launch for a few seconds.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#43230: Sep 17th 2015 at 12:59:01 PM

[up][up] That's probably true.

Also, he'd inevitably turn out to be a cover identity or disguise of Boba Fett, just like Jaster Mereel.

edited 17th Sep '15 12:59:15 PM by higherbrainpattern

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43231: Sep 17th 2015 at 12:59:50 PM

I was shocked anyone from the movies showed up in Agents of Spin-off, but at the same time I was happy because this waaay back when I didn't have a high opinion of the show and the lack of connection to the greater MCU was one of those reasons.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43232: Sep 17th 2015 at 1:08:53 PM

I wasn't surprised when SLJ or Sif showed up on Agents of SHIELD. You know why? Because they were both announced as guest stars ahead of time.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#43233: Sep 17th 2015 at 1:53:40 PM

Well, I was surprised when SLJ turned up. Sif on the other hand was (just like Maria Hill) on my list of characters played by actors who aren't that high-prolific yet.

I don't think profile has as much to do with it (though that obviously factors into it) as the budgetary aspect. We're in an era where there's no longer as huge a stigma against movie stars doing TV shows like there once was (Jeremy Renner was on Louie recently). Most of the Avengers have powers that you really can't do on a TV budget.

So even if by some miracle you could afford to pay RDJ's salary to have Iron Man guest star, what are you actually gonna do with him? Suiting up isn't an option.

edited 17th Sep '15 1:54:13 PM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#43234: Sep 17th 2015 at 2:01:38 PM

Let him tinker around with Fitz? He is not just Iron man after all, he is Tony Stark.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#43235: Sep 17th 2015 at 2:15:08 PM

Speaking of the Stark family, if Madame Masque in season 2 in Agent Carter is any indication, I think Howard Stark is slowly turning into "Golden Age Tony" sans the armor.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#43236: Sep 17th 2015 at 2:28:31 PM

[up][up]Yes but there's no need to fork out millions of dollars for him to appear if it's gonna just be to have him make quips and geek out. People see "Guest starring Iron Man!" and they're gonna expect to see Iron Man actually do something Iron Man-y.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#43237: Sep 17th 2015 at 5:01:53 PM

I hadn't seen the whole thing yet but they confirm the Aether as the Reality Stone.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#43238: Sep 17th 2015 at 5:20:52 PM

[up]

With the existing ones confirmed, the only two remaining are the Time Stone and the Soul Stone. Doctor Strange might be a good place for the Soul Stone, or maybe Guardians of the Galaxy 2 if the whispers of Adam Warlock appearing are correct.

Thor: Ragnarok would probably be the only place for the Time Stone to appear. Perhaps the movie opens with Asgard already destroyed and Thor gets his hands on the Time Stone and uses it to try to prevent Asgard's destruction.

edited 17th Sep '15 5:29:44 PM by Falrinn

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#43239: Sep 17th 2015 at 5:52:26 PM

so the Aether is the Reality Stone, GOTG had the Power Stone, the Mind Stone is currently embedded in Vision's forehead, and the Tesserect is the Space Stone.

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#43240: Sep 17th 2015 at 5:57:08 PM

Tesseract: Space. Asgard's vault. Basically in Loki's possession.
Aether: Reality. Being held by the Collector.
Gonna call it Orb because it needs a name: Power. Held on Xandar by the Nova Corp.
Damnit... Staff Gem Thing: Mind. Vision's forehead. Possibly would be safer in a safety deposit box.

Soul: ???
Time: ???

Infinity Gauntlet 1: Asgard vault.
Infinity Gauntlet 2: Thanos' fist.

Can we get spiffing names for the Mind and Power stones?

edited 17th Sep '15 5:58:40 PM by Bocaj

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#43241: Sep 17th 2015 at 6:36:40 PM

Soul Stone will probably still be Adam Warlock/Magus.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#43242: Sep 17th 2015 at 6:53:59 PM

Given that they've made several items into Composite Characters, maybe the Time Stone could be something in Doctor Strange.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#43243: Sep 17th 2015 at 6:56:27 PM

I hope, actually, that the Time Stone isn't in Thor: Ragnarok. Ragnarok should really be just the best of Walter Simonson's run - perhaps Thor in Hel, perhaps Surtur, perhaps Beta Ray Bill - and perhaps even a scene where Jane Foster holds Mjolnir.

The Time Stone, I think, would fit better in Captain Marvel (where it would power the Psyche-Magnitron).

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#43244: Sep 17th 2015 at 8:17:12 PM

Wouldn't they want all the stones to be introduced and in play by the end of Infinity War Part 1?

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#43245: Sep 17th 2015 at 8:22:18 PM

They could still have Thanos acquire a stone or two off-screen. I mean, we were never told how he got the Mind Stone to give to Loki, after all.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43246: Sep 17th 2015 at 8:27:18 PM

I imagine one of them, likely the Time Stone, won't be introduced until Infinity War, where it's already part of his gauntlet.

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#43247: Sep 18th 2015 at 7:01:51 AM

Preferably the Soul Gem. I don't want Thanos to be revealed to have had the Time Gem all this time on grounds that it makes the victories the Avengers have had over the course of the entire series sorta pointless if he's always had the ability to just reverse time, go back to Avengers 1, and not give Loki the staff.

If Thanos is in possession of the Time Gem, there's no reason for his efforts to have failed up to this point. He can just Save Scum until he wins.

edited 18th Sep '15 7:02:48 AM by TobiasDrake

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alioth Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#43248: Sep 18th 2015 at 7:22:14 AM

Time Stone would make a lot of sense in Ant-Man 2, but I don't remember off the top of my head if that works out with release dates.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#43249: Sep 18th 2015 at 7:24:58 AM

Since we don't even know if there's going to be an Ant-Man 2, no it doesn't.

Even if they make a sequel, which is looking pretty likely, it's doubtful they're going to shoehorn it in when they've already got a full film slate.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#43250: Sep 18th 2015 at 9:12:45 AM

Speaking of Ant-Man, the latest interview with Olsen suggests that they might take an Avengers Disassembled approach with her character, and I don't like that, not after the previous movie already did pretty OK with rehabilitating her character.


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