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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42951: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:29:13 AM

What are you talking about? Black Widow is placed in danger every time she sets foot on a warzone.

No, she isn't. She very clearly is not in any danger in the battle sequences - just like Cap is never in any danger. She's not going to get randomly shot by a mook (well, Joss Whedon might...no, even he wouldn't). But being confronted or captured by the Big Bad is placing her in actual danger, just like when Hawkeye was placed in danger by Ultron, too.

edited 11th Sep '15 11:29:21 AM by alliterator

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#42952: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:34:01 AM

i legit didn't understand why hawkeye was even in the first avengers.

besides giving something for natasha to fuss over (a plot point which i didn't particularly care for tbh), he was kind of just there.

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#42953: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:39:25 AM

Hawkeye was there because he's a 'Classic Avengers'

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42954: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:40:10 AM

He was there to get brainwashed by Loki and then swear to put an arrow through his eye. And also to give a sweet, sweet fight scene between him and Black Widow where Widow knocks him out.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#42955: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:43:12 AM

Look, he had already signed that contract for the Cameo in Thor, and Hawkeye gets lonely in between avengers movies.

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#42956: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:44:17 AM

Eh, Hawkeye became an Avenger at the same time the Twins did.

Hawkeye and Widow were there because they're super-easy to set up. No origin story required. That makes them easy choices for fleshing out the team's ranks so it's not just the Big Three plus Hulk, especially since Ant-Man didn't make it to the party.

edited 11th Sep '15 11:44:56 AM by TobiasDrake

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42957: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:48:32 AM

Ant-Man was there, you just couldn't see him.

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#42958: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:49:40 AM

So was Quicksilver. You'd be surprised how many people were secretly involved in the Battle of New York. And that's not getting into how many Skrulls were in the crowd shots....

edited 11th Sep '15 11:49:52 AM by TobiasDrake

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#42960: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:58:48 AM

With the exception of Daredevil, naturally.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#42961: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:00:04 PM

"Seriously, am I the only one on Earth who isn't an evil invading alien?"

"To us, you're the alien!"

<cue fisheye and Scare Chord>

edited 11th Sep '15 12:00:41 PM by KnownUnknown

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#42962: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:03:33 PM

"But this is my planet! You are from a different planet! That makes you aliens!"

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#42963: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:18:27 PM

I like the idea that Skrulls started infiltrating humanity generations ago, (somehow) having families with humans and teaching their kids to keep shapeshifting into human form because now isn't the time to drop The Masquerade and claim the planet.

But then somewhere along the line humanity died out, and all that's left are Skrull or part-Skrulls who keep up the act because they're unaware that there's no longer any need to.

Except Daredevil.

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#42964: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:23:43 PM

[up]I imagine the kids becoming confused to why each of their parents, separately, teach them the same stuff and the ask the secret to be kept from the other.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#42965: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:35:22 PM

Would much rather it be the Makluans. The idea that your best friend could really be a Smaug-esque dragon from space (as opposed to just a green person with a funny chin) seems more unnerving IMO.

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#42966: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:42:18 PM

Then we find out the space dragon is really just a British actor with a drug habit.

edited 11th Sep '15 12:42:27 PM by TobiasDrake

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42968: Sep 11th 2015 at 1:21:20 PM

And that British actor with a drug habit turned out to be the Sorcerer Supreme. And also a Skrull.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#42969: Sep 11th 2015 at 1:51:57 PM

[up]Ben would've made an awesome Ancient One.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#42970: Sep 11th 2015 at 2:07:33 PM

It's a shame Martin Freeman already has a role in Civil War. Cause I would totally love to see him as Fin Fang Foom in a Dr. Strange movie.

[up] Seconding this.

edited 11th Sep '15 2:08:10 PM by KnownUnknown

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42971: Sep 11th 2015 at 2:09:28 PM

So, wait, Martin Freeman would be the one playing a CGI dragon? Interesting. They could still do it, just use his voice. I would love to hear him say, "Fin Fang Foom put you in his pants!"

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#42972: Sep 11th 2015 at 2:12:56 PM

[up][up]Triple F is more an Iron Man foe. It wouldn't feel right for him to break up with Tony for Stephen.

edited 11th Sep '15 2:13:20 PM by nervmeister

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#42973: Sep 11th 2015 at 2:17:03 PM

I want a scene in which Iron Man and Dr. Strange are in a pissing contest, and at one point Martin Freeman's character enters, hears Dr. Strange being an annoying know-it all and says "No shit, Sherlock."

Clue Iron Man and Dr. Strange changing an awkward look.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#42974: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:20:32 PM

[up]I could hug you right now. That is brilliant! evil grin

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#42975: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:32:47 PM

So I rewatched Age of Ultron for the first time since seeing it when it was in theaters months ago.

Its a decent movie, but with numerous issues.

edited 11th Sep '15 3:37:02 PM by higherbrainpattern


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