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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I was just thinking as I clicked on the "Where is Hulk?" link how funny it would be if, after evading the question for so long, Ruffalo turned around and was like, "Alright, we're finally close enough to movie time that I can FINALLY tell you whether my character will be in it and what role he'll have! The long-awaited answer: nope."
Regarding the power levels: they really are unbalanced, but that's a good thing. This is Cap's movie and, narratively, the hero is supposed to be the underdog. If this was Iron Man 4, then it would be problematic because the answer to "How could Iron Man possibly hope to prevail against Cap?" would be answered with, "By flying in and blasting the shit out of him until he goes down, because of course that is how that ends."
But since it's Captain America 3, there's more suspense. I've talked about this before, but it's more engaging to watch a knight slay a dragon than a dragon slay a knight. When the dragon wins, he wins because of course he wins. He's a f*cking dragon. The odds are so heavily stacked in his favor, it's ridiculous to think the knight could ever stand a chance. There's no tension, no excitement in a Foregone Conclusion.
But when the knight defeats the dragon, that's exciting. How did he do it? What circumstances transpired to make this impossible victory come about? There are so many questions, and the story is about the journey that ultimately brought down the unbeatable titan.
Iron Man's got all the powerhouses and that's okay. It means Cap can't just walk into Stark tower, hand Tony his ass in five seconds, and call it a day. It means he'll be challenged. It means he can have a journey.
edited 3rd Sep '15 12:01:18 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Plus it's not like Iron Man, Vision, and War Machine don't fall victim to The Worf Effect every other day.
Honestly, I think Tony could drink Cap under the table, even with Cap's superhuman constitution.
I still wish they hadn't cut the deleted version of Tony's showdown with Loki, in which Loki more subtly tries to take over Tony's mind and Tony leads him on into thinking he's succeeding before overstepping and revealing himself. The reason Tony was able to resist: because Tony Stark is no stranger to mind-altering substances and requires harder shit than Loki to lose himself.
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My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I dunno, I think Tony would relapse into his alcoholism before Cap even got tipsy. From what we hear about it in his movie, his body neutralizes the alcohol before it even has a chance to affect him at all, so I don't think quantity matters.
But on the other hand, Tony being able to out-drink someone who literally cannot get drunk sounds humorous.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!In the MCU, Tony's never overcome his alcoholism, so there's nothing to relapse into.
It's his alcohol tolerance that's in question, not his alcoholism. The latter merely enhances the former because the copious amounts of alcohol he consumes has raised it. Like training your body to handle strenuous conditions, in which those conditions are specifically the deadly poison you're pouring down your gullet in massive quantities on a regular basis.
As your body becomes more and more resistant to the poison, you require greater quantities of it to reach that point where your brain is so heavily damaged that parts of it shut down, creating that euphoric high sensation.
edited 3rd Sep '15 12:21:16 PM by TobiasDrake
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