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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#42201: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:36:36 AM

Phhhffffff

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#42203: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:40:06 AM

I hope he stays dead to be honest.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#42204: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:40:39 AM

Same.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#42205: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:41:36 AM

Very different circumstances.

Coulson was a long-running character, immensely popular with the fanbase, was unjustly murdered, and the permanency of his death was openly called into question in the very movie he died in.

Pietro was a new character, had very little characterization, died in a Heroic Sacrifice, and was given a lasting legacy when Hawyeke chose his son's middle name in his honor.

Quicksilver isn't coming back.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#42206: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:42:12 AM

There is more douchebaggery to get out of him.

I demand a spin off where Quicksilver and Hawkeye are stuck in a room together while Black Widow and Darcy have to find and defuse a bomb thats going to explode freedom.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#42207: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:44:39 AM

[up][up] Well, if a character gets killed and actually stay dead, I ain't complaining.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#42208: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:50:57 AM

[up]x2 Wait, the bomb is going to explode with freedom? That doesn't seem so bad.

Or... it's going to explode and destroy freedom? Cause that does seem so bad.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#42209: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:53:16 AM

I was under the impression that freedom bombs tend to kill people regardless.

Oh God! Natural light!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#42210: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:58:19 AM

I see Peggy has organized back-up again...that will be hard to top....

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#42211: Sep 2nd 2015 at 10:58:43 AM

From what we saw in the movie, it looked like Quicksilver had the kind of superspeed where hitting something at several hundred miles-per-hour does translate into a whole lot of kinetic force.

Supersonic Punch Baby! [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#42212: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:02:00 AM

Its going to explode and destroy freedom.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#42213: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:17:15 AM

Theo Rossi from Sons Of Anarchy will be in Luke Cage. And they confirm Rosario Dawson is returning as Claire Temple.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#42214: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:36:08 AM

[up]I expect Claire to turn up in pretty much all defender series.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42215: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:38:28 AM

She's the Nick Fury of Netflix.

I expect her to show up in Orange is the New Black soon.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#42216: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:41:07 AM

[up][up] Rosario Dawson's going to be in Daredevil season 2 and Jessica Jones as well.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#42217: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:43:28 AM

She needs to lose an eye at some point so that she can effectively manage the Defenders.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#42218: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:45:40 AM

freedom bombs tend to kill people regardless

No, you're thinking of freedom fries; all that cholesterol and sodium...

edited 2nd Sep '15 11:45:49 AM by HextarVigar

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#42219: Sep 2nd 2015 at 12:24:40 PM

Now this could be interesting. I'm a little worried about the movies having Protection from Editors but if this is true and that's all they've been doing then good riddance.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#42220: Sep 2nd 2015 at 12:45:41 PM

I'm not sure if it's protection from the editors. It sounds like the issue was since they had a background in comics and were very familiar with the source material, they were something of a drag on the creative side. Which can absolutely be the case because as message boards can attest, people sometimes come up with terrible ideas in the name of "sticking to the comics", while vice versa, they veto perfectly good ones on the grounds that it's too different from the source material.

Also of note, the site claims Perlmutter is to blame for the infamous marketing debacle involving Black Widow, as he apparently vetoed a lot of potential merchandise on the grounds that girls wouldn't buy it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#42221: Sep 2nd 2015 at 12:51:38 PM

I have a hard time to believe that one guy could make such a decision alone, but then, who knows what the power structures looked like.

For a moment I was worried because it sounded as if Feige is now making all decisions alone, but apparently there is still a team, they just got rid of the comic writers? Well, we will see how this works out. Creative freedom is certainly a good thing but hopefully the directors and writers are still asking for input from time to time.

After all, Marvel created two outstanding movies in 2014....question is if they worked because or despite the system in place.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42222: Sep 2nd 2015 at 1:22:22 PM

I have a hard time to believe that one guy could make such a decision alone

Yeah, that's my issue, too. You can't place all the sexist blame on one guy. There has to have been other people involved.

edited 2nd Sep '15 1:22:32 PM by alliterator

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#42223: Sep 2nd 2015 at 1:26:59 PM

While change makes me a little bit nervous, I think it is kind of a good thing that they are not getting complacent and do shake things up a little bit. This, more than anything, will hopefully keep the movies fresh.

Though I hope that they will do from time to time brainstorming sessions with the creative at Marvel.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42224: Sep 2nd 2015 at 1:36:26 PM

If it's true that they are the reason Edgar Wright left, then, uh, perhaps they are the reason we got as much of the Wasp as we did in Ant-Man.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#42225: Sep 2nd 2015 at 1:40:39 PM

Quesada got kicked off of something.

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