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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#42026: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:42:14 AM

Well Justin Hammer was never presented as his comicbook supervillian counterpart. He was just like you and I pointed out. A wannabe Tony Stark, but ends up failing. He never wanted to physically hurt anyone.

Rockwell last said "Ah! I was hoping to come back in one of the Avengers films and come after Gwyneth Paltrow, because that's what they set up, that I was going to get revenge on Gwyneth for getting me arrested or something. I could do a Cape Fear thing with Gwyneth. But they've got a lot of mojo in there already, so I don't know if they need another pirate like me in the mix there! [Laughs.] Maybe S.H.I.E.L.D. is the way to go."

before All Hail King. Meanwhile, in All Hail King Justin sat there jealous of all the fame a bigger fake idiot than himself received from the inmates. essentially he is an attention whore. If he came back again it would be his time to rise for all this glory and the only way to do that is through help. Que Thunderbolts. What role can an idiot play? What happens if someone instructed him? Tony once called Living Laser and Whirlwind both annoying flies that need to go away. Despite they have armor they do not meet the requirements to be a challenge towards Tony. He hates them. The MCU's Justin Hammer can fill in that niche. All he wants is the fame Tony was born with. However, he isn't one of the crazies out there, so evil isn't a word to describe him. If he came back in a bigger antagonistic role he would need a pretty good reason to join the dark side. Remember he tried to stop Vanko once the dude did something crazy at his expo. Why join a group with Leader and Abomination? Bam... greed consumed him, driving him insane. We already saw the process. Just expand upon it. Everyone would be a prick in his eyes. A prick that he wants to pluck out. That's the only thing I can think of for his character right now.

Honstally the only reason anyone wants Justin Hammer is because he's entertaining to watch. Who cares if he causes a lot of explosions or not. We care about his flamboyance! He's one of those characters that would be nice to watch just for his own program

edited 30th Aug '15 10:53:05 AM by xbimpy

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42027: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:44:17 AM

I want to see Justin Hammer come back so he can spaz out more.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#42028: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:41:20 AM

With Hammer in jail and Vanko a smear in the dirt, I want to know what happened to the precious little bird.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#42029: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:55:39 AM

It ended up with Falcon, no doubt.

  • "But Sam, wouldn't it make more sense for you to have an actual falcon-"
  • "Shut up, I vant my burd."

edited 30th Aug '15 11:56:24 AM by KnownUnknown

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#42030: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:57:23 AM

[up][up] According to Fury's Big Week, the burd is deceased.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42031: Aug 30th 2015 at 12:01:46 PM

No, no, his DNA was just spliced with a clone of Thomas Edison and now he's a supervillain called the Inventor.

Also, don't call him a bird.

Calnos The Jossed from Nowhere Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Jossed
#42032: Aug 30th 2015 at 12:54:41 PM

Is it sad I'm looking forward to the Captain Marvel movie in part for the possibility of a Kamala Khan cameo/spin-off?

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#42033: Aug 30th 2015 at 1:03:00 PM

Nah, that's perfectly reasonable.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#42034: Aug 30th 2015 at 1:20:20 PM

I would think she is more likely to appear in AOS or Inhumans, tho.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#42035: Aug 30th 2015 at 1:40:15 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]sad

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#42036: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:37:40 PM

No, no, his DNA was just spliced with a clone of Thomas Edison and now he's a supervillain called the Inventor.

Also, don't call him a bird.

YES

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#42037: Aug 31st 2015 at 7:52:44 AM

Not that interesting a villain, but boy, was the outlook he was selling his followers messed up.

Who ever showed Tomas Eddingson's bird clone The Matrix made a grave mistake that day.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#42039: Aug 31st 2015 at 8:21:51 AM

Man, I hope they find a role for Garfield somewhere in the MCU involved in future Spider-Man projects. Eddie Brock or Cletus Cassidy, maybe?

Even as a cameo - it'd be fun for Chameleon to show up as a villain, and at certain points turn into Tobey MaGuire, Andrew Garfield and maybe Nicholas Hammond.

edited 31st Aug '15 8:22:25 AM by KnownUnknown

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#42041: Aug 31st 2015 at 9:38:23 AM

It's kind of bad that his Spider-Man films were what they were because Andrew Garfield was a pretty good choice.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#42042: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:09:14 AM

Yeah, but for the MCU he was too old from the get go. But he is a terrifying actor. I don't doubt that he will be one of the big ones eventually.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#42043: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:30:10 AM

Have him be Ben Reilly.

My various fanfics.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42044: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:46:18 AM

But Ben Reilly is a clone of Peter Parker, so, uh, he should look exactly the same as him.

I mean, you could try casting him as Kaine, perhaps.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#42045: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:50:10 AM

Toby as Kaine. Andrew could still be Ben. Just science up some bullshit about certain twins not looking exactly the same because of things that happen in the womb and how that applies here.

My various fanfics.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#42046: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:51:10 AM

But...that still doesn't make any sense, because twins are not clones.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#42047: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:57:38 AM

It's why I figured on Venom. Eddie being older than Peter but still being an Evil Counterpart works pretty well for a previous Spidey actor.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#42048: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:48:18 AM

Human development is highly stochasticnote  and that's even before you factor in things like epigenetics or spontaneous mutations (who knows, maybe they were really sloppy or adventurous and worked with mutagenic chemicals). Besides, they could always blame any differences on the accelerated aging process was used to get them to adulthood. They're all brown-haired white people so it's less of a hard pill to swallow.

[up]That's a good one, though Garfield is kinda slim and Venom is traditionally bulky.

edited 31st Aug '15 11:52:30 AM by AlleyOop

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#42049: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:10:09 PM

Andrew Garfield....as Eddie Brock. cool

NICE.

edited 31st Aug '15 12:10:31 PM by higherbrainpattern

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#42050: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:12:42 PM

[up]Can't be worse than Topher Grace! [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?

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