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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#41926: Aug 28th 2015 at 2:51:17 AM

Why is Vision on anyone's side? Why does Poshtor Manhattan give a shit about sides?

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#41927: Aug 28th 2015 at 5:02:58 AM

[up][up]Which sucks yeah, but there's no reason for Sharon not to have a relationship with Steve or be hated before she even has a chance to leave some kind of impression.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41928: Aug 28th 2015 at 5:17:53 AM

[up]I understand the apprehension of the concept, though. In the end it depends on how Marvel will handle the matter. To be honest, though, I think they will hold off pairing Steve with anyone. The thing is that he shared this kiss with Peggy and then suddenly wakes up in the future. For him the second world war and everything he experienced during it is barely over. During The Avengers he is basically still grieving, and in The Winter Soldier, just as it seems as if his life is back on track, his new world is falling apart again. Remember at this point Natasha is still busy convincing him that he should go on dates again. And if we assume that Peggy is dying now (she is positively ancient after all), I honestly can't see him jumping into a serious relationship just yet.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#41929: Aug 28th 2015 at 6:50:59 AM

Just for reference Peggy was originally Sharon's older sister. They changed it to aunt as the time frame moved further from WWII. Of course I think even being her aunt is pushing it. Saying Peggy's her great-aunt or grandmother would probably make the most sense now.

edit: I will admit that the older sister angle is a little bit creepy. The other potential relationships lack that aspect in my opinion.

edited 28th Aug '15 6:51:57 AM by Kostya

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#41930: Aug 28th 2015 at 7:14:30 AM

Why is Vision on anyone's side? Why does Poshtor Manhattan give a shit about sides?

Tony built him to be a suit of armor around the Earth, protecting it from all threats foreign and domestic. It was a rocky road with Ultron, but Vision is the affirmation of everything Tony was trying to accomplish. On top of that,

Vision: I am on the side of life.

If Tony's side is meant to be a response to collateral damage caused by the Avengers, there's no reason he wouldn't jump onboard an oversight committee intended to minimize needless casualties.

edited 28th Aug '15 7:15:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#41931: Aug 28th 2015 at 7:17:36 AM

The question is which side is Nick Fury on?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#41932: Aug 28th 2015 at 7:19:39 AM

Unless he had a change of heart since Winter Soldier he'll be on Tony's side.

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#41933: Aug 28th 2015 at 7:21:04 AM

I could see Fury going either way.

  • Pro-Reg: Seriously, I never wanted to destroy S.H.I.E.L.D. anyway and have been secretly rebuilding it. Just because we've had difficulties with the chain of command in the past doesn't mean that having a chain of command is a bad idea. We never should have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
  • Anti-Reg: The Avengers Initiative was my baby to begin with. S.H.I.E.L.D. may be gone sort of but we've replaced it with something better, something that served us well during the Ultron crisis. Seriously, did you guys see how many lives we saved?

One thing I love about Civil War: It's not actually hard to write any given character as being on either side of the issue.

edited 28th Aug '15 7:22:09 AM by TobiasDrake

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41934: Aug 28th 2015 at 7:52:10 AM

Fury had always a very low opinion of meddling politicians, though. I think while he wouldn't be against some sort of control, he would always want that the control comes from people in the field.

As long as I don't know how the registration act exactly looks like, I have no idea which side I would pick, no matter guessing what anyone else would choose.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#41935: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:56:01 AM

so comicvine's new interview on Grant Ward says his Hydra is the informal one, which means Hydra in Ant Man was most likely from a different group (que Zemo), doing "new" things. unless "new" was just a delusion in Cross's head

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#41936: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:56:14 AM

Given Fury's role in the MCU at the moment, I bet he won't be invested all that much in the issue at all and will be primarily focused on dealing with whatever Zemo's up to - maybe even delivering a What the Hell, Hero? if the conflict distracts our heroes too much.

I think Nick had a role like that in the Marvel Ultimate Alliance version of Civil War too, at least before the whole nanite issue.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#41937: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:59:23 AM

Do you know what I noticed about Thunderbolt? He wasted his life trying to be the new Chester Phillips, recreating the original superhuman formula. He ended up with two abominations instead. Now here is Cap in the flesh. The objective of his goal. For the first time he gets to see it perfected.

edited 28th Aug '15 10:00:38 AM by xbimpy

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#41938: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:03:41 AM

Why is Vision on anyone's side? Why does Poshtor Manhattan give a shit about sides?

"Moichendizing!"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41939: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:14:53 AM

Oh, I am sure that Ross considers Cap as property of the government, too.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#41940: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:15:16 AM

[up][up][up]That is a brutal twist of irony.

edited 28th Aug '15 10:15:34 AM by windleopard

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#41941: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:20:18 AM

Man, everyone is sandbagging Poshtor Manhattan.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#41942: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:34:53 AM

[up]...Poshtor who now?

edited 28th Aug '15 10:35:13 AM by kkhohoho

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#41944: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:55:01 AM

I'm guessing they're calling Vision a posh impostor/expy of Doctor Manhattan. Which he kinda is, if Manhattan was a naive newborn, idealistic, and way less depressed.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#41945: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:57:17 AM

And wore a bitchin cape.

edited 28th Aug '15 10:57:38 AM by comicwriter

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#41946: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:59:16 AM

Doctor Manhattan, except Posh- in place of Doc- because British.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#41947: Aug 28th 2015 at 11:00:53 AM

Indeed, it was not Vision who was Worthy of Mighty Mjolnir, but that Sweet Ass Cape totally was.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#41948: Aug 28th 2015 at 11:01:56 AM

Vibranium is the worthiest of the metals.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#41949: Aug 28th 2015 at 11:03:20 AM

I just realized I really want to see a scene of Panther glaring at Vision when he realizes he's built out of the stolen vibranium.

edited 28th Aug '15 11:03:31 AM by comicwriter


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