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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#41726: Aug 26th 2015 at 11:56:40 AM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41727: Aug 26th 2015 at 11:58:45 AM

Once again: stop being a troll. That's what you can do.

Also, this isn't reddit. SJW isn't an insult. And admit when you're in the wrong.

edited 26th Aug '15 11:59:34 AM by alliterator

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41728: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:00:24 PM

Saying it isn't fair to equate autism with being a Basement Dweller is hardly being an SJW. It's not like anyone's saying "fuck you I hope you get doxxed for being a problematic asshole" or "you are a bad person", just "don't say these things because they have Unfortunate Implications". And if anyone (not directing this at any specific person in particular) has a problem with basic politeness then I have to wonder if maybe they're the one who has a problem being oversensitive and easily offended.

Also, I could've taken the anti-SJW route and accuse you of being a misandrist for referring to Marvel and Fox as "brothers" specifically when Basement Dweller is so heavily associated with maleness (and it really is an unfortunate stereotype), but I purposefully didn't because that would be a level of petty I'm not willing to indulge in.

edited 26th Aug '15 12:03:45 PM by AlleyOop

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#41729: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:03:01 PM

Maybe they'll change things so Captain Marvel's rank is just captain in the films.

Have they said what run they're drawing inspiration from most? I picked up the Higher, Further, Faster, More volume and it was awesome, and could make for a good movie.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#41731: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:07:40 PM

[up]Wow. Already? I didn't think he went too far........yet. But then again I don't how long he's hung out here and therefore his reputation. Oh well, staying on topic: Yeah. Marvel may opt to simply say Carol's currently a Captain in this continuity.

edited 26th Aug '15 12:09:23 PM by nervmeister

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41732: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:12:54 PM

[up] The problem wasn't their initial statement which really wasn't that bad but their response to the response.

Back to Carol, I wonder if as a member of the air force they're going to keep her relationship with Rhodey. I always thought it was a bit Strangled by the Red String in the comics, but they obviously have more room here to tweak around with that since they have more time to plan things ahead and the two characters have some shared common background as members of the air force before becoming heroes. Although I think there are rules against that kind of relationship IRL. At the same time since Rhodey is now a (possibly full time) member of the Avengers that may not be a problem anymore.

edited 26th Aug '15 12:14:02 PM by AlleyOop

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#41733: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:20:16 PM

Holy shit. What happened?

On second thought, never mind.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#41734: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:29:04 PM

Subject of discussion:

Were he so inclined, does T'Challa side with the people who think Han should have shot first, or is he ok with Greedo having shot first?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41735: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:31:58 PM

Technically Drax never said that his family was killed before his eyes. It sounds that way because he said that Ronan laughed after it. But it's not like he ever said "he killed them right before my eyes and I held their death bodies in my arms".

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41736: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:44:38 PM

It's also possible that Moondragon may have experienced what happened with comics!Drax. Her physical body may have died, but her essence was transported into an all-powerful new body as a weapon against Thanos. Might even invert Arthur Douglas's fate by having her new vessel be a human body, though most likely not because humans are squishy and Gunn said he wanted Peter Quill to be he only human.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#41738: Aug 26th 2015 at 12:53:42 PM

How stoked would people be if Quill's father was played by none other than William Shatner?

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#41739: Aug 26th 2015 at 1:18:20 PM

I would like that.

Her physical body may have died, but her essence was transported into an all-powerful new body as a weapon against Thanos.

And with that, they can bring in Galador and the Spaceknights!

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#41740: Aug 26th 2015 at 1:57:04 PM

Given that we never saw exactly how they died, it's entirely possible that Moondragon (or rather, the character might become Moondragon) isn't as dead as everyone thought. Speaking of which, think Lee Pace would be up for a cameo in a flashback?

On the subject of Peter's dad, I think it's Thanos' brother...Eros, I think? He was in the original Infinity Gauntlet story - Thanos took him captive so that he could gloat while he slaughtered everyone, basically.

edited 26th Aug '15 1:57:31 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41741: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:18:06 PM

I've seen people make a semi-convincing case that his father could be Loki of all people. It would be an interesting way to make that foreshadowing amount to something of value among non-comic readers, add an interesting element to him, and maybe justify his continued presence in the MCU beyond Thor 3 and Infinity War.

A lot of Thorki shippers who Marvel is surely aware of by now would probably get really mad in the process though. I'd expect some uproar about gay erasure, as tends to happen when Fan Preferred Couples get torpedoed, even though there's never been any indication aside from Shipping Goggles that indicates Loki is of any particular sexual orientation at all in the first place. I've already seen people accuse Whedon of being a homophobe for erasing Steve Rogers' as of yet unconfirmed bisexuality in Age of Ultron, which as a big proponent for canon Steve/Bucky I still find pretty silly.

edited 26th Aug '15 6:36:28 PM by AlleyOop

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#41742: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:23:44 PM

I don't think any significant number of people - or any remotely reasonable person - is going to get mad at Marvel or claim "erasure" over them not writing twincest. For goodness' sakes.

I can see people disliking such a development due to thinking that Loki is already overexposed, and while I don't think Loki's role thus far has been excessively prominent, trying to tie him into the Guardians storyline would be overmuch. The Guardians story is supposed to expand the Marvel Universe, make us realize that there's a lot out there beyond Earth and Asgard. Tying the main character right back to Asgard reduces the scope.

edited 26th Aug '15 6:25:36 PM by Galadriel

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#41743: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:25:01 PM

That'd be cool, but I don't see much in the way of a resemblance.

Also, The Thor/Loki bromance, while... popular... isn't something sane people should be expecting to be happening.

Not the least of which because Thor already has a canon love interest.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#41744: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:25:58 PM

I seriously doubt Marvel Studios gives a damn about shippers.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41745: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:34:09 PM

At the least a lot of the actors are definitely aware of all the shipping going on. RDJ, Mark Ruffalo, and Hayley Atwell have commented on it at least, and Atwell said she might try to get some Cartinelli into the show if she can help it.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#41746: Aug 26th 2015 at 7:43:35 PM

The key problem I see in it being Loki is that I believe the Nova Prime said that Peter Quill's non-human half was something they've never seen before. And while the Asgardians seem to be somewhat apart from the rest of the cosmic universe, the stinger of Thor 2 establishes that their is lines of travel between them.

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#41747: Aug 26th 2015 at 8:00:35 PM

I still think it's Eros or Starfox if you prefer. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Eros_%28Earth-616%29

I will likely be PROVEN WRONG, but the idea has an interesting swing to it.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41748: Aug 26th 2015 at 8:12:10 PM

I've already seen people accuse Whedon of being a homophobe for erasing Steve Rogers' as of yet unconfirmed bisexuality in Age of Ultron, which as a big proponent for canon Steve/Bucky I still find pretty silly.

Huh? How was Steve's bisexuality erased on Age of Ultron? He doesn't have any love interest in the movie! What part of the movie "erased" the fanon bisexuality?

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#41749: Aug 26th 2015 at 8:27:32 PM

I see Peter's father being Starfox played by Nathan Fillon- but whoever he is played by, I see it as being someone who doesn't look much older than Pratt.

I just think it works because Eros/Starfox is like a more assholeish version of the way Peter acts in the films. And I want to see Peter mimicking Thanos and saying, "Peter, I Am Your Uncle".

edited 26th Aug '15 8:29:07 PM by Hodor2

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#41750: Aug 26th 2015 at 8:31:45 PM

I'd be against Loki being Star Lord's dad not because of Loki himself (I don't buy the "Loki is overexposed" complaint), but because the MCU has a noticeable "all roads lead to Asgard" thing going on that they've been getting away from recently, and which I'd like them to continue getting away from for variety's sake.

Loki having tons of kids should totally be a thing, though. It'd let them do that storyline where he and Spidey team up (only half joking on that one tongue)

edited 26th Aug '15 8:34:09 PM by KnownUnknown


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