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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41251: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:44:31 AM

It's clearly a reference to "AKA Jessica Jones," Jessica's debut comic series.

Cough cough cough.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#41252: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:44:57 AM

Wow. Those titles...

At the very least, the tone is probably going to be slightly lighter than Daredevil and I'm all for that.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41253: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:47:21 AM

I heard this show goes even darker than Daredevil so it could be a bit of black comedy instead.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#41254: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:48:29 AM

Eh. I'll take it, I suppose.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#41255: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:50:10 AM

Daredevil isn't a romp or anything but I do feel it's significantly lighter than it's given credit for.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#41256: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:52:36 AM

Though the lighting is definitely pretty dark.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#41258: Aug 19th 2015 at 11:06:53 AM

Maybe it is later, but the first three episodes were just too much for me. And it's been long enough since I stopped that I don't really want to spend the effort on trying to get back into it.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#41259: Aug 19th 2015 at 11:09:14 AM

Daredevil is definitely not nearly as dark as people think it is. Sure, it's pretty dark, but it's not as gratuitous in its edginess about it as Arrow is in Season 3.

edited 19th Aug '15 11:10:06 AM by higherbrainpattern

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#41260: Aug 19th 2015 at 11:15:29 AM

It's not a good idea to force yourself through something you don't like. Don't feel pressured to finish Daredevil.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41261: Aug 19th 2015 at 11:23:04 AM

[up][up]What is edgy about Arrow Season 3? It's melodramatic nonsense.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41262: Aug 19th 2015 at 11:24:48 AM

The arrows. The arrows were pretty edgy.

Except for the boxing glove arrow. That had no edge.

zam Since: Jun, 2009
Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#41264: Aug 19th 2015 at 12:01:39 PM

I didn't like the first three episodes of Daredevil that much, but I pushed on and it got better... Then the ending went down a notch. Well, maybe only a little. I still don't understand why setting someone on fire didn't make Matt grieve or whatever, nor why he revealed whom he was to that cop instead of running away.

I think the darkest moment in the series is when that one guy impales his own head on a spike in fear of Wilson Fisk.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41265: Aug 19th 2015 at 12:05:41 PM

[up]Not "You embarrassed me in front of her"?

I actually liked the second episode the best.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#41266: Aug 19th 2015 at 12:21:09 PM

Second episode was also my favorite.

I don't think Matt actually knows he killed Nobu. He continues on like he's never killed anyone after that, which is weird. I can excuse it because he was so beaten to hell afterwards that I would not be surprised if his memory of that night is spotty at best.

With the increased involvement of The Hand in season 2, I'm hoping this will be addressed.

edited 19th Aug '15 12:21:19 PM by TobiasDrake

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#41267: Aug 19th 2015 at 12:25:34 PM

Matt: Why are you so mad at me?!

Ninjas: YOU SET ONE OF OUR MEMBERS ON FIRE!

Matt: Wait, I did what?!

My various fanfics.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#41268: Aug 19th 2015 at 12:31:21 PM

I've still to watch Daredevil.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#41269: Aug 19th 2015 at 12:43:59 PM

Except for the boxing glove arrow. That had no edge.

But it was wondrous. I forgave Ollie for the entirety of Season 3 for the Boxing glove arrow alone.cool

It's the greatest weapon in Green Arrow's arsenal.

As for Daredevil and darkness, when Wilson Fisk uses a car door (still attached to said car mind you) to turn a man's head to pulp, it's fair to say a series is pretty dark.

I'd call the Nobu thing self defence, combined with Matt perhaps having too much on his mind (getting the shit kicked out of him; then fighting with Foggy) to actually put two and two together. Plus, he was pretty shocked at fighting a Ninja in the first place, so he might not be trying to think about it too much.

One Strip! One Strip!
stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#41270: Aug 19th 2015 at 12:51:34 PM

They actually used a boxing glove arrow in Arrow? Haha. I got in an arguement with my brother because he didn't like the Marvel films as much as The Dark Knight or Arrow because they were "less realistic." I tried to point out "Green Arrow is a guy that dresses up like Robin Hood and shoots people with boxing glove arrows!" but he wasn't having it.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#41271: Aug 19th 2015 at 1:07:09 PM

[up]

Taadaaah!

After this, I stopped calling him Stupid Evil Oliver Queen, and called him Stupid Evil Awesome Oliver Queen.

I consider every word to be accurate.tongue

You know, I kinda do want The Hand to directly call Matt out on killing Nobu....

But now I realize we Never Found the Body.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#41272: Aug 19th 2015 at 1:22:36 PM

So, Zombie Ninja's confirmed?

Zombie Ninja's confirmed.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41273: Aug 19th 2015 at 1:40:44 PM

Please, we know the Hand can resurrect people. They probably have zombie switches in all their members.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#41274: Aug 19th 2015 at 2:15:48 PM

[up][up][up]You know, that clip made me want to watch the show.tongue

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#41275: Aug 19th 2015 at 2:21:32 PM

Be wary.

Season 3 is really dumb. Outside of that scene, the only good thing about it is the stuff with The Flash.

Zombie Ninjas eh?

I don't know man. Zombies are the working man's monster, but Ninja's are definitely not the working man's......ninjas.....

........

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!?

~Runs~

One Strip! One Strip!

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