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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#41151: Aug 17th 2015 at 10:22:06 PM

Yeah, that's pretty standard non-committal PR speak. Clearly they don't want to divulge just what Spider Man is going to do in Civil War.

I do love the idea of a panicky PR guy waving his arms frantically.

edited 17th Aug '15 10:26:01 PM by edvedd

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#41152: Aug 17th 2015 at 10:46:22 PM

I still say Disney has a team of cheerful snipers everywhere to prevent leaks during interview and such.

When they say "No," they do so with great imagination.

edited 17th Aug '15 10:47:37 PM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41153: Aug 17th 2015 at 10:58:50 PM

Well, the more they can keep under wraps the better. We don't want the best surprises getting spoiled beforehand, right?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41154: Aug 18th 2015 at 12:03:09 AM

4Chan sure is having a lot of fun right now with that pic of Bucky and Sam running.

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#41155: Aug 18th 2015 at 12:17:56 AM

[up][up]Eh, I'm sure we'll get like a million trailers in the run up.

They're not exactly shy about revealing things, but only on their schedule.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#41156: Aug 18th 2015 at 12:18:58 AM

Yeah, right before Ultron got released, we basically knew what was going to happen in half the movie anyway.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41157: Aug 18th 2015 at 1:21:34 AM

[up]We will see how much they reveal this time around. I personally think that the Falcon was originally supposed to be a big surprise in Ant-man, but someone in the marketing chickened out and felt that the movie needed the push the presence of an Avenger provided. And even then nobody had any idea how the meet would happen.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#41158: Aug 18th 2015 at 4:19:03 AM

obviously we will learn almost all the major parts of civil war before civil war releases lol. its been like this eversince winter soldier

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#41159: Aug 18th 2015 at 4:21:22 AM

You never know, maybe with a guaranteed success like this one they won't feel the need to try so hard.

Then again, I've always thought that the fear of spoiling 'the whole movie' through trailers has always been slightly overblown.

edited 18th Aug '15 4:21:36 AM by edvedd

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#41160: Aug 18th 2015 at 4:57:10 AM

[up][up] So there were people who knew about the big HYDRA-related Reveal before The Winter Soldier came out?

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#41161: Aug 18th 2015 at 5:01:00 AM

Or that the Mandarin (Ooh, can o' worms) was not who we thought he was?

We like to exaggerate a bit, but most trailers are not in fact made by the same people who made the ones for Terminator Genisys or Cast Away.

edited 18th Aug '15 5:02:31 AM by edvedd

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#41162: Aug 18th 2015 at 5:06:27 AM

Or that the Mandarin (Ooh, can o' worms) was not who we thought he was?
I do know I saw a spoiler about that twist in the Iron Man 3 thread about a week or so before it was released, supposedly it was leaked to 4chan.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41163: Aug 18th 2015 at 5:27:59 AM

Since we are talking about villains again...I have started to think of good rendition of Comic book villains on the big screen, but I have come up curiously short.

I mean, Batman has a really memorable rogues gallery, but with the notable exception of the Joker who works more or less in ever variation, the other villains tend to fall short on the big screen. In fact, for some of them the rendition in the 1960s Batman series is still the best Lieve action version of them. OR does anyone really like the movie version of the The Riddler, Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy? The Penguin was mostly weird and Raz a Guhl was for some reason not magical at all.

I guess Zod got a fairly memorable adaptation in the original Superman, but does anyone truly think that Lex Luther was a good take on the characters?

The whole X-Men series has exactly one good villain and that's Magneto, well, an you can perhaps count Mystique as outstanding henchwoman, but I can't even remember who the other villains in the movie were.

I remember how much criticism the Movie versions of the Green Goblin got, even for the original series, despite so many people being nostalgic about them.

And don't get me started on the various way to ruin Dr. Doom

All in all...I think the list of outstanding movie villains in comic book movie is embarrassingly short. So why do we expect Marvel to knock it out of the park every single movie?

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#41164: Aug 18th 2015 at 6:09:40 AM

theres this notion nobody at the MCU knows how to write a "proper" rouge in contrast to the competition. its the number #1 rant alongside these are just Saturday morning cartoons for simple minded people because they arent mature and dark enough.

if you cannot tell by now, Marvel Studios often avoids putting emphasis on its supervillains in contrast to any superhero because these films are not told from the former's perspective. they don't have enough autonomy to act outside what the plot wants them to do. this fact is perfectly fine within a given context.

therefore the only major difference between a MCU rouge and any other rouge from mainline DC/Marvel is that a none MCU one stands out much more than the hero. though the ASM movies are rather closer to a MCU product, while the MCU would never spam a recurring rouge as much as Magento, and most importantly never add someone chewing the scenery so over the top like Zod without acknowledging how ridiculous it is.

people need to stop putting unrealistic exceptions in place. accept things for the way they are not the way you want them to be

edited 18th Aug '15 6:32:51 AM by xbimpy

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41165: Aug 18th 2015 at 6:23:06 AM

[up]Yeah, I know that Marvel deliberately doesn't tend to put focus on their villains, but other studios do, and I question if the result is really that much better. For all the emphasis the batman villains got, how many great ones were the result?

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#41167: Aug 18th 2015 at 6:41:35 AM

I was using the Mandarin as a marketing example, folks. Being real tongue in cheek.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#41168: Aug 18th 2015 at 6:48:45 AM

@Ximby, the rogue is "rogue". "Rouge" is what older women put on their faces.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#41169: Aug 18th 2015 at 6:58:31 AM

yes Batman movies made Batman an utter badass but in terms of characterization personality and development I cared for none of that as his rouges stole the show. was it effective? both Jokers check and Nolan's Bane check (disocuting he was Talia's bitch). meanwhile Scarecrow bored me because he was ineffective without his plot mcugfin, Ras although he said some serious speeches at the end he didnt leave a lasting impact on Bruce's life or the society of Gotham plus he had crappy cartography and physical feats, Ridler, Mr Freeze, Posion Ivy, and Peguine were all so hammy they belong in Batman and Robin.

really Joker stands at the frofront of BM most enteriting rogue in live action thus far without being short handed like Bane did.

edited 18th Aug '15 7:06:57 AM by xbimpy

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#41171: Aug 18th 2015 at 7:07:09 AM

I brought this up in the last page, but it sort of got buried.

Matt Smith in the MCU.

How can it work?

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#41172: Aug 18th 2015 at 7:13:34 AM

I look at his picture on his creator page and my mind immediately says Tinkerer.

edited 18th Aug '15 7:13:42 AM by TobiasDrake

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#41173: Aug 18th 2015 at 7:15:17 AM

Well his fellow former Doctor Who actors were both cast as villains.

So clearly, Matt Smith should be cast as Reptyl the Non-Human

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#41174: Aug 18th 2015 at 7:19:52 AM

If I remember correct, David Tennant will play Purple Man in Jessica Jones, right?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41175: Aug 18th 2015 at 7:24:00 AM

[up]Yep...I was first "who?" and then I remembered that he was the guy who played Barty Crouch Jr so convincingly in Harry Potter. I think he will be a delightful crazy.


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