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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#41026: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:34:25 PM

I want the climax of every movie to happen shrunk-down in Cassie's bedroom.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#41027: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:35:17 PM

Is there any way to create a compelling Avengers fight scene without resorting to a Mook army?

I'm beginning to see the argument for Masters of Evil, now. It may be the only way to create a compelling fight for all involved without making it so that they're all fighting the same damn thing.

edited 16th Aug '15 1:35:31 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41028: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:37:05 PM

[up]Yep, let them fight each other...oh...wait a minute....

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#41029: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:48:36 PM

I expect with Thanos, the Avengers will be the mook army he wades through.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41030: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:56:38 PM

So we'll get a oner of Thanos steam-rolling his way through The Avengers single-handedly to show how awesome he is?

......That'd actually be pretty awesome now that I think about it.

edited 16th Aug '15 1:57:42 PM by HandsomeRob

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#41031: Aug 16th 2015 at 2:02:51 PM

[up]Just as long as he's an actual, serious threat to the team and not another Ultron.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#41032: Aug 16th 2015 at 2:09:24 PM

That's how it should be, right? With the gauntlet he doesn't need an army...even if there are still stones missing.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#41033: Aug 16th 2015 at 2:09:45 PM

It depends on the enemy, too. If they were fighting one of Dr. Strange's powerful enemies, for example, I could buy a single foe using clever application of magic and/or reality warping to make a varied and engaging fight for all the Avengers without necessarily resorting to armies of mooks.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#41034: Aug 16th 2015 at 2:41:47 PM

Also viable solutions are a really big enemy or more less-combat objectives (like shutting down the portal was in Avengers).

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
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#41035: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:15:52 PM

The Red Skull could work. We don't actually know he died, right?

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#41036: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:37:01 PM

Hey, if Thanos somehow brings back all of the previous enemies from Phase 1 and 2 as his underlings in Infinity War, that would be awesome.

Just imagine Cap and Bucky fighting against the Red Skull, Hulk taking on the Abomination (and the Leader thrown in for good measure), Tony fighting against a resurrected Ultron, Thor stabbing and killing Loki (especially if Widow and Hawkeye are involved in killing him as well)...

Seriously, Loki better die horribly in Infinity War.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#41037: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:39:55 PM

Again, Thanos could always have the Black Order as a Quirky Miniboss Squad.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#41038: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:43:36 PM

I want Thanos to either kill Loki with his bare hands or for Thor to do a repeat of the miniseries Loki. Which ends with Loki, realizing Thor was the only person who truly cared about him despite all his astounding dickishness, decides to abandon his life of villainy....but by this point he's conquered Asgard, killed several innocents and has been torturing Thor for some time. So when Thor inevitably breaks free, Loki tries to tell him how he's changed only for Thor to grimly murder him

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#41039: Aug 16th 2015 at 4:21:46 PM

By not sticking with her he shattered the chance for that want becoming a reality

Except that's not what happened. He didn't run away from her and take away her change at a normal life. He offered her a normal life and she said no. She spent Ao U trying to work out what she wanted, to have a normal life or to be part of a team of heroes doing good, she made her choice loud and clear when she declared that "I need the other guy".

Banner didn't reject her, she rejected Banner.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#41040: Aug 16th 2015 at 4:38:33 PM

[up][up]Or Loki could do that first part, but end up trying to pull one over on Thanos and get his head crushed like a cherry.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#41041: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:04:29 PM

Kid Loki, maybe.

How exactly did that happen in the comics?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#41042: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:19:58 PM

Tom Hiddleston is a huge seat draw, I don't think they'd off him that easily. Also I heard he was already confirmed for Infinity War, though not necessarily past that.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#41043: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:22:18 PM

Yeah that's the main issue with using Kid Loki in the MCU: You lose the Hiddleson factor that made the character popular in the first place.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#41044: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:22:31 PM

[up][up] For me I think Loki is going to die in rangnarok by thanos and thor goes all vengance of him.

And for Natasha...she chose hulk mover banner? damn he dosent get a break dosent it?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#41045: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:24:00 PM

Hopefully her pushing him down the pit and him subsequently sulking off in a Quinjet will cause them to go back to Just Friends by the time Infinity War rolls out.

I mean, I'm not a fan of romance in general, but that was just so cringe-worthy and shoehorned in that it was ridiculous.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41046: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:25:37 PM

You can still use Kid Loki and Tom Hiddleston, you just make the Hiddleston Loki into a spirit guide (an evil spirit guide, maybe?) or hallucination. I mean, currently there are even two versions of Loki in the Marvel universe (or, well, what's left of it): God of Stories Loki and Evil King Loki.

Really, I want a movie or Netflix show about Journey Into Mystery. And then Young Avengers. And then Loki: Agent of Asgard.

edited 16th Aug '15 6:26:28 PM by alliterator

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#41047: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:32:09 PM

Consider tony convince him to make ultron,scarlet witch mind controling him and black widow kicking out, he has more that enoguht reason to go world war hulk on everyone, granted is not going to happen but one can dream

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41048: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:35:05 PM

Consider tony convince him to make ultron,scarlet witch mind controling him and black widow kicking out

Huh? 1) Bruce agreed on making Ultron, so it's his own damn fault, too. 2) Yes, he blames Wanda, but not enough to attack everyone else. 3) Black Widow "kicking out"? What? You mean her pushing him down so that he would become the Hulk? Because I'm pretty sure he doesn't blame her for that, he knows she had to do it, but ran away anyway.

In any case: no, there hasn't been enough reasons for him to go World War Hulk.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#41049: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:40:41 PM

Also that whichever kid would play Kid Loki will inevitably be older by the next installment.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41050: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:49:46 PM

Now I want Tom Holland to play Kid Loki and Tom Hiddleston to play King Loki. Because it amuses me.


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