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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#40976: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:00:35 PM

Im not giving up on the Mandarin. I know the MCU is going to hit us with him when we least expect it. You'll see! And no, Toby Drake! He does not have to be a goddamn terrorist! One of his underlings may have ran a terrorist cell. That DOESN'T mean he is one! Christ!

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#40977: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:08:07 PM

what would be the point?

we've been over this before, but really, the main problem for me isn't even the idea of the twist itself, but how they pulled it off in the movie and that killian isn't that great a villain.

apparently they revealed in some extraneous material that there is a "real" mandarin but i doubt they'll ever follow up on that.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#40978: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:12:37 PM

Look, I've explained why I don't like Age of Ultron before in this thread, and I really don't feel like doing it over and over. That's just my opinion, and if it "offends" you that I don't like the movie you like, maybe try growing up a little.

When I do, I'll grow big enough to toss you into the sun.tongue

Age Of Ultron rocks. end of story.

Just messing with you man. I may not agree with your opinion, but I fight to your the death to defend it.

And when you are destroyed, I'll honour your memory.

As for the Mandarin. I've said how much I hate Iron Man 3, which is ironic, because I actually think the Mandarin being a behind the scenes guy makes sense. I just.....

Oh god. That shit with Trevor. I think they went way too far with that. I don't even mind Killian being the real Mandarin, since they wanted to avoid all the Yellow Peril bullshit.

Ironically, enough, with the possible existence of K'un-l'un(sp) hinted via Dare Devil, they could have just said the Mandarin was from there. Though I still think the way Extremis was used worked as well.

In fact, most of my problem comes solely from how they revealed the Mandarin was fake.

[up] [nja]'d, but pretty much what I was saying. Good idea, but that FUCKING EXECUTION!!!

edited 15th Aug '15 2:13:23 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#40979: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:14:05 PM

[up][up]No. No. NO! They can make this work! They can make him a denizen of one of the Heavenly Cities (along with the Makluans and the rings) who took an interest in Earth and began building a shadow empire on it. That would work just fine.

edited 15th Aug '15 2:14:43 PM by nervmeister

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#40980: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:17:50 PM

oh i'm sure they could make it work but at this point why even bother? to please a contingent of hardcore Iron Man fans? most people don't even know who the mandarin was prior to this movie.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#40981: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:24:26 PM

Most movies are usually attributed to one director, but I'm pretty sure that's just Hollywood being shitty and general auteur garbage, and not how it actually works.
I mean, the director is not the alpha and omega of creative decisions on a given film, but generally, yeah, there is in fact just the one guy telling the actors what he wants out of performances and guiding the visual aesthetic.

There are, in action films, usually what are called second-unit directors, who pick up the boring shots (establishing shots, fight scenes, generally anything without the actors in) the director doesn't want to do or doesn't have time for. So yeah, there's more than one director, but they're generally in charge of grunt work and not necessarily the guy you want finalizing creative decisions.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#40982: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:24:50 PM

[up][up]Even unpopular villains can be made great and memorable in the right hands. And besides, I'm f**cking sick of Loki being the only recurring villain in the MCU.

edited 15th Aug '15 2:26:56 PM by nervmeister

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#40984: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:38:20 PM

[up][up] GOOD NEWS!

Rumlow is now a recurring too!

General Ross too

edited 15th Aug '15 2:38:47 PM by Bocaj

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40986: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:43:54 PM

I'm just saying, I've seen people here who legit didn't know that until someone informed them in the past.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#40987: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:45:04 PM

[up]X6 Plus you get assistant directors, who help plan out large shots and pretty much just arrange extras in the background. Or at least that's how I've seen it work on TV filming

[up][up] Yep, swearing rules here pretty much boil down to the good old "emphasise on a point is fine but abusive language even without naughty words is a no no".

edited 15th Aug '15 2:46:27 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#40989: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:48:17 PM

I think we had 3 or 4 just on the 4 episode TV thing I was an extra in, so god only knows how many you'd have on an actual film.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#40990: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:48:22 PM

[up][up][up][up]Heh heh. Fuck....OMG! I said it just now! I feel so renegade! Im not giving any fucks! —giggles hysterically— Oh, this is nice.

edited 15th Aug '15 2:50:28 PM by nervmeister

cutewithoutthe Góðberit Norðling Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Góðberit Norðling
#40991: Aug 15th 2015 at 2:56:53 PM

For a movie, there's generally a single Assistant Director and then they have their own assistants (2nd AD, 2nd 2nd AD- not a typo, 2nd 2nd). For television shows, it can vary by episode just as the crew can vary throughout episodes, but the AD always has their assistants (2nd AD handles basecamp and the Call Sheet, 2nd 2nd handles controlling extras, locking down the main set, helping on the main set, echoing orders, watching after cast, production reports).

I'm in film school.

edited 15th Aug '15 3:40:28 PM by cutewithoutthe

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40992: Aug 15th 2015 at 3:00:31 PM

Man. That's so weird.

I mean, I've been in plays and those generally only had the one director, and auditioned for commercials that were the same, but I assumed that was just because those are smaller-scale.

How does one person handle doing all that work for something as big as a film or even TV series? That's horrifying.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#40993: Aug 15th 2015 at 3:36:10 PM

Interesting, I only actually remember the A Ds being around for the outside shoots (I only actually remember that because I corrected the third assistant director or where I was 5 seconds previously in the scene we were filming) as they were the big ones. The indoor stuff was either small or done at the studio and thus with different extras.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#40994: Aug 15th 2015 at 3:40:55 PM

Since we're expressing opinions on Redwing, I'll just say it: I would've preferred if they hadn't introduced him at all, robot or real bird. I just don't think it really adds anything. And it's definitely too late for Sam to start being able to talk to birds. I don't care if he did it in the comics; this the MCU, which is a separate continuity.

Here's what I did want for Sam:

Sam: I know somebody that might be able to help us. *pulls out phone*

Phone: Hello?

Sam: Hi, Uncle Luke... (as in Luke Cage. 'cause that'd be cool"

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#40995: Aug 15th 2015 at 3:47:38 PM

Why Luke Cage of all people?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#40997: Aug 15th 2015 at 3:56:00 PM

All black people are related to each other?!!!

And besides, Luke Cage is already going to be in Jessica Jones, plus his own show.

edited 15th Aug '15 3:58:22 PM by higherbrainpattern

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#40998: Aug 15th 2015 at 3:58:34 PM

"Hey Luke, its your cousin. Your cousin Sam? Remember that sound you were looking for? Well, listen to this!"
"Cousin? Wait, is that the sound of you punching robots?"

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#40999: Aug 15th 2015 at 6:00:25 PM

Funny enough the novelization of Civil War made them childhood friends. Who both happened to grow up to become superheroes in completely independent circumstances.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#41000: Aug 15th 2015 at 6:06:38 PM

Well, it's New York. You got, like, a 1 in 5 shot of getting superpowers at some point in your life. Statistically, some childhood friends are going to both get powers, and not all of them are going to immediately become archnemeses.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.

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