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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#40901: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:03:59 AM

"Eyes on Target folks." Falcon launched Redwing - it's robotic, and he can look through it! It's Cap, Falcon, and Black Widow going after a bomber - Crossbones! Cap and Crossbones engage, while Falcon, with a massively upgraded suit, and Black Widow take out his thugs.

"This is for dropping a building on my face," Crossbones says to Cap. "You know, he remembered you. Your pal, your buddy, your Bucky."

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40902: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:05:09 AM

[up]Careful! Some people might not want to know what is in it.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#40904: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:06:02 AM

"The world owes you an unpayable debt. But while a great many see you as a hero, there are those who prefer the word Vigilante. People are afraid."

Cap says "We try to save as many as we can, but sometimes that doesn't mean everyone." The follow-up to the scene from Ant-Man's credits was shown, and Bucky recognizes Steve.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40905: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:06:14 AM

[up][up]robot bird I think

edited 15th Aug '15 11:06:24 AM by Swanpride

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#40906: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:07:11 AM

Black Widow confirmed fighting Hawkeye.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40907: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:10:45 AM

"We've done 4 films since the last time I was here for D23, so that leaves 6,996 Marvel movies to go. It'll take some time."

Lol....

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40908: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:33:32 AM

Robot bird is decent but I really wish they had given Sam an actual bird.

Come on guys! It's silly but that's why it's great!

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40909: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:39:44 AM

I'm fine with the Robobird. Sam missed the boat on becoming sky Aqua Man a long time ago.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#40910: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:54:13 AM

I'm fine with the Robo-bird too.

Like, not everything that's in the comics works in live-action. I like my superhero media lighter and softer, but come on, guys.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#40911: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:56:25 AM

Does Robo-Redwing have any punch to him? A robotic bird pet with missile launchers and laser beam eyes sounds awesomely perfect for action beats while being toyetic enough to make any marketing department happy.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40912: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:57:25 AM

Mm...sounds like D23 is a success...just from reading what is going on I am suddenly excited for Jungle book and Pete's dragon.

What do you think, how long before Disney posts anything online?

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40913: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:58:54 AM

[up]x3 I don't really see why a real bird wouldn't work in live action.

They had a talking racoon as a main character. Come on.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#40914: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:02:50 PM

[up] He was also an alien.

And the product of messed-up mad science.

Oh God! Natural light!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40915: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:03:18 PM

[up][up]The talking raccoon was in space. San is established to be a normal human guy.

edited 15th Aug '15 12:03:26 PM by Swanpride

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#40916: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:03:28 PM

Tony loves mad science!

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#40917: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:03:49 PM

It'd take a while to explain where Sam suddenly got the power to talk to birds from. The comics too were pretty convoluted about it; sometimes it was because of the Cosmic Cube, another time it was implied he was a mutant.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40918: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:04:47 PM

I really don't see why that matters.

Hulk is a giant green rage monster. Tony has a robot suit. Cap is 90 years old. Vision is a eird fucking magical robot thing.

Sam talking to birds is not so far out of the realm of possibility. Hell, just make him suddenly an inhuman. He probably eats fish. It'd make sense.

edited 15th Aug '15 12:05:39 PM by Mukora

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#40919: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:05:43 PM

That's because their origin stories explicitly involve strange, super shit. Sam was just a guy with cool military tech. Where did he get the power to psychically talk to birds?

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40920: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:06:20 PM

He ate some fish. Easy.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#40921: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:07:23 PM

The talking raccoon was experimented on in space. Where all kinds of weird aliens exist. Meanwhile, back on Earth, there's no evidence that Sam Wilson is anything else other than a normal man who worked as former military and who wears a flight suit jet pack with wings to be a superhero. Having him being able to talk to birds and understand what they have to say would be...weird. Especially when no such previous indication was given.

edited 15th Aug '15 12:30:05 PM by higherbrainpattern

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40922: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:07:27 PM

Lol...

I think a robot bird is waaaaaay cooler.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#40923: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:07:47 PM

Mmm....so the Ten Rings could be a mask for the true Mandarin, too?

Sure, but we've already had that story.

There's no point in taking a Mulligan on the Mandarin if they're just going to do Killian again. The only way going back on the Ten Rings reveal works is if they're willing to play the Ten Rings terrorists completely straight with the "True Mandarin."

But, as I've already pointed out, there is no way to play the Ten Rings completely straight without severely undercutting the Mandarin's menace in the process, which is why they did what they did with Killian in the first place.

They found a way to do the Mandarin without suffering from the narrative needing to be beholden to the utter mistake that was naming the terrorists "The Ten Rings." Then the fans didn't like it, so now they've basically promised the shitty, handcuffed version of the Mandarin in Iron Man 4, a movie they know they're not making anyway so they don't have to deal with ever following up on it.

It's kind of brilliant in a reactionary sort of way.

edited 15th Aug '15 12:09:29 PM by TobiasDrake

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40924: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:08:36 PM

I mean, honestly I'm also upset he didn't talk to birds in Winter Soldier, so there's that.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#40925: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:09:10 PM

For context, Ao S had some terrigen end up in fish (we see fish oil but there could be more I guess). Thus any inhumans around the world might now get their powers almost at random.


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