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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#40651: Aug 10th 2015 at 5:11:46 PM

Recent-er comics have Vulture working pretty good as a gang leader, often giving his minions the ability to fly.

Annnnd sometimes using small children as minions because sure I guess.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#40652: Aug 10th 2015 at 8:11:30 PM

Vulture having connections to Falcon in the MCU would be pretty cool, especially if he doesn't die in his first appearance and makes a more general MCU appearance after facing Spidey (or if, like Ant-Man, Falcon makes an appearance in the movie).

Though I suppose that's not worth spoilering that much anymore. It's plastered all over the advertising now.

edited 10th Aug '15 8:19:52 PM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40653: Aug 10th 2015 at 8:36:42 PM

[up][up][up]I think it'd be more interesting if he were genuinely clean to begin with, and turned to crime out of frustration/desperation after being stolen from by the US military.

Continues the whole "we create our own demons" theme the MCU likes, even if the demon in this case is a grouchy frail old man with a wingsuit.

Or like what Stark may have done if the government managed to seize his Iron Man suit.

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#40654: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:33:57 PM

Between Daredevil and apparently Spider-Man, is the MCU's new thing gonna be heroes wearing prototype versions of their costumes before moving onto the traditional looks?

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#40655: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:41:29 PM

It's already happened with Stark and Rogers, don't see it stopping for awhile.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#40656: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:42:12 PM

i mean i don't really care that much, it makes enough sense. you don't always get it right the first time :p

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#40657: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:43:11 PM

Don't forget Iron Man's Mark I and Cap's USO costume "sewn by blind old lady drunk on moonshine".

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#40658: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:43:34 PM

It'd be nice if hey'd stop killing off the bad guy(s) in the movies. Having them still alive makes a sequel more likely.

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#40659: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:45:02 PM

well to be fair, it was a different set of circumstances. tony stark made the suit from scraps he found in the prison he was in. he probably would have made something a bit more elegant if he had the proper tools, which he did later.

tony's an inventor anyway. it makes sense for him to keep making new suits, it's what he does.

edited 10th Aug '15 10:45:40 PM by wehrmacht

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#40660: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:45:05 PM

Wow. Can't believe I completely forgot about Steve and Tony. Good point.

Not really complaining, of course. I mean, seeing the Iron Man Mk.1 was the first time I ever cheered at the MCU, after all.

edited 10th Aug '15 10:46:08 PM by DrFurball

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#40661: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:46:16 PM

I believe you mean he built it IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#40662: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:47:15 PM

i should watch iron man 1 again. i liked it a lot when i first saw it, but that was like what, 7 years ago? curious to see how well it holds up. geez time passes fast...

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40663: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:47:23 PM

Ehh... certain minor villains should stick around so they can make appearances in other films. I wholly support Taskmaster showing up in a few movies as a minor antagonist, or even Batroc getting into trouble again.

But the major plot-drivers should be killed off or otherwise removed from the picture. They had their time to shine, and re-using the same villain makes for a dull plot (And is one of the biggest issues with the X-Men films).

edited 10th Aug '15 10:51:22 PM by Anomalocaris20

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#40664: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:50:32 PM

i don't care that much if the villain gets offed in the movie provided he's a good villain.

the main problem with the mcu rogues is that, as many have said before, the films are very, very focused on the main character and usually don't spend as much time on the villain.

part of the reason that loki and wilson fisk are considered the best mcu villains is that their respective works treat them with as much importance as the main character, not to mention kingpin is in a tv show that can afford to spend a lot more time fleshing out the character.

edited 10th Aug '15 10:51:47 PM by wehrmacht

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#40665: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:53:49 PM

I would also like to add that Tony is rich and Cap's suit was made by the army, he didn't have to make it himself.

Matt and Peter, on the other hand, had to make it all themselves with a limited budget. Matt even tells Foggy that he got most of the stuff off the internet.

edited 10th Aug '15 10:54:06 PM by alliterator

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#40666: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:59:41 PM

[up] And Matt's red costume was made Fisk's tailor. I do like how this universe explains the costumes.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40667: Aug 10th 2015 at 11:10:55 PM

I wonder if Mr. Potter will get to become Gladiator, or if him throwing a buzzsaw at Matt is all we're going to get.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#40668: Aug 10th 2015 at 11:13:37 PM

I hope not. I was actually hoping that all the Gladiator references were just Mythology Gags, since even in the comics, I like him better as an ally of Daredevil's than as an enemy.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40669: Aug 10th 2015 at 11:18:26 PM

Yeah, I was thinking he's pretty clearly a good guy here, but maybe he'd take up the Gladiator identity as a heroic vigilante rather than a villain. tongue

But yes, it's probably best the Mythology Gag remains just a Mythology Gag and he sticks with his civillian identity.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#40670: Aug 11th 2015 at 12:44:08 AM

That looks like something a teenager would throw together in a couple hours. If he's just starting out, it would work.

I mean, how did Tobey Maguire's Peter sew that fancy costume so quickly anyway?

I'm not sure it's real though.

edited 11th Aug '15 12:44:29 AM by edvedd

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40671: Aug 11th 2015 at 12:47:13 AM

That is one of the resons I like the origin story in TAS better...there the costume is a work in progress.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#40673: Aug 11th 2015 at 4:53:27 AM

Scarlet Witch and Cross bones also had their costume develop over one or two movies. And Arnim Zola is slowly turning into the walking television he is in the comics.

Best thing about a serial franchise is, if it seems like a risk using a comics accurate costume, you can always build up to it.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#40674: Aug 11th 2015 at 7:06:12 AM

[up][up] How does that prove it's not real? Because both are similar shots? I don't get it.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#40675: Aug 11th 2015 at 7:16:05 AM

[up]They're not just similar, they're the exact same angle with the exact same cars in the street. It's fake.

edited 11th Aug '15 7:16:43 AM by spashthebandragon

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