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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#40551: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:36:09 AM

Heimdall's eyesight doesn't work through the Bifrost - even when it was broken, he could still see. He just has a limited form of omniscience - basically, he can see almost anywhere.

edited 9th Aug '15 8:36:19 AM by alliterator

Cross (Don’t ask)
#40552: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:56:46 AM

He can be an Asgardian version of the thing MCU can't say or use.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#40554: Aug 9th 2015 at 9:00:23 AM

A Skrull?

edited 9th Aug '15 9:00:29 AM by KnownUnknown

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#40556: Aug 9th 2015 at 9:04:46 AM

He can be an Asgardian version of the thing MCU can't say or use.

The Watcher? Nah, he's the Asgardian version of the thing the MCU can use, i.e. Heimdall, who has the exact same powers in the comics.

edited 9th Aug '15 9:04:52 AM by alliterator

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#40557: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:18:03 AM

He's born with that power because the story says so. There's no explation really. hes a one of a kind. the only way i see around it is at birth his eyes were replaced with superpowered ones

edited 9th Aug '15 10:20:24 AM by xbimpy

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#40558: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:47:08 AM

Heimdall confirmed for Infinity Stone.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#40559: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:49:01 AM

Asgard has both magic and science so advanced that its basically magic.

How come Pym has never gone on a field trip there? He'd love it and or get in a fist fight with Odin.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#40560: Aug 9th 2015 at 1:09:18 PM

[up] Pym probably thinks Asgard is a load of phooey?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40561: Aug 9th 2015 at 2:52:16 PM

Heimdall is Dr. Doom?

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to Dr. Strange since he's one of my favorite heroes with my all-time favorite villain (the DREAD DORMAMMU), but I'm not too excited for Cumberbatch in the role and hearing that the scriptwriters are known for flops is a bit worrisome.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#40562: Aug 9th 2015 at 5:31:18 PM

So, I hear the new Fantastic Four movie completely flopped.

Think Fox is ready to make a deal with Marvel now?

One Strip! One Strip!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40563: Aug 9th 2015 at 5:40:24 PM

It depends on whether or not they want to hold on for the full ten years just to spite Marvel. I think it's incredibly unlikely they'll bother making a reboot though.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40564: Aug 9th 2015 at 5:52:51 PM

[up]It's not ten years. It's six or seven or so.

Would be a stupid move. Now they at least get money for it. In a few years they either have to let it go for free or they have to throw good money after bad. I don't think that the audience will get excited about a F4 movie anytime soon. It was not even excited this time around, can you imagine how bad the buzz will be the next time?

edited 9th Aug '15 5:53:05 PM by Swanpride

cutewithoutthe Góðberit Norðling Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Góðberit Norðling
#40565: Aug 9th 2015 at 5:56:48 PM

okay but.. . ... fantastic four playing a part in the mcu's phase four... how cool would that be

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#40566: Aug 9th 2015 at 5:58:33 PM

It probably wouldn't be so bad if it was Marvel Studios doing the next one.

By the way, they better give it back at this point. IIRC virtually no one wanted to see this movie.

EDIT:

they have to throw good money after bad.

I'm not sure if I get this part...

edited 9th Aug '15 6:01:34 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40567: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:02:50 PM

Honestly, I kinda... did want to see it. But the reviews have put me off.

edited 9th Aug '15 6:03:00 PM by Mukora

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#40568: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:05:19 PM

[up]Same here. I wasn't terribly excited for it, but I was hopefully optimistic. I even liked the idea of changing their origins from "space" to "Negative Zone", something a lot of fans were vocally against. I thought that even if it wasn't amazing, it would still be entertaining enough.

But, yeah, the reviews convinced me I shouldn't watch it.

edited 9th Aug '15 6:05:39 PM by Heatth

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#40569: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:05:56 PM

i could have actually seen it early but i'm kinda broke and didn't want to go spend moolah to see a most likely horrible movie.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#40570: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:06:50 PM

[up][up]I'd watch it if someone paid me to. Barring that, I think I'll give it a pass.tongue

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40571: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:07:00 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]The contract is designed in a way that Fox either have to produce a movie every few years or the rights revert back to Marvel. So in a few years they will be stuck between a rock and a hard place. Either giving up the rights or springing the money for another ill-fated production. Which is why they are better off to sell the rights back now. Not that Marvel will pay as much as they would have a few years ago.

edited 9th Aug '15 6:07:23 PM by Swanpride

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#40572: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:08:47 PM

I mainly wanted to see it because I really liked the idea of Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm, but it apparently didn't work out.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40573: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:09:44 PM

They don't even need to sell the rights necessarily. Just make the movies a co-production like they're doing with Spider-Man. I hope they do decide to do that. Then we can get Kang in Avengers 4.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#40574: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:13:11 PM

[up]Marvel would never go for that arrangement. They want complete control. Spider-man was a different matter because for one, Spider-man is the Mascot of Marvel and not the member of a Comic book series which they already cancelled due to low sales, and two, Sony was still making money with Spider-man and was therefore set on making more movies, no matter what. Movies which could have undermined Spider-man the same way the F4 have been destroyed in mainstream perception. This way Marvel has some control.

Plus, Marvel can wait. They have a full schedule for the next years either way. It would just be easier and saver if they get the rights back now.

edited 9th Aug '15 6:14:28 PM by Swanpride

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40575: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:20:02 PM

At the same time I don't think the FF are important enough to Marvel for them to be willing to pay Fox.


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