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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#39926: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:34:12 PM

I think they always planned to make another F4 movie, but it got stuck in Development Hell; the rights deadline was just the shot in the arm they needed to finally get it made.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39927: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:39:38 PM

I don't even think that Marvel would make a F4 movie if they get the rights back...but they would use Galactus and The Silver Surfer.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39928: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:44:49 PM

I'd be fine with a single FF film as a smaller more low-key entry in the MCU like Ant-Man. They just need to establish that the team exists and then they can occasionally reference them or have them guest star. The main benefit would be getting Galactus, Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Rama-Tut/Kang, and the Skrulls back.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#39929: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:45:48 PM

I've heard that the MCU does have access to the skrulls but whedon didn't use them in avengers because he just needed generic aliens

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39930: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:46:12 PM

[up][up][up] And Annihilus. And Uatu. And the Skrulls (as much as I hate them). And Kang the Conqueror.

Just saying. tongue

EDIT: Well, we already discussed that and how unlikely it is.

What?! From what page to what page?

edited 5th Aug '15 6:47:39 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39931: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:51:10 PM

Uatu is with Fox? I thought he was a general Marvel character.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#39932: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:53:30 PM

Originated with the Fantastic Four.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39933: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:56:42 PM

Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver originated with the X-Men. Marvel can still use them. Black Panther and the Inhumans also got their start in FF.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39934: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:01:47 PM

The thing is that even if the current movie bombs (and just because it gets bad reviews it doesn't mean that if won't at least make its money back...we will know more next week in this regard), I am not convinced that Fox will be ready to sell the rights back. They might want to sit on them either out of spite or fear that Marvel shows them off again like they did with Daredevil.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39936: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:33:35 PM

Geez, Fox doesn't know squat about what they're doing with the F4 characters.

The more I think about that dumb reboot, the more I realize how dumb the changes are.

  • Not giving Thing some shorts? Really?!

  • They totally could've used Annihilus as the Big Bad, but noooooo, they have to use Dr. Doom! Just because!

Sorry guys, my family came up with this dumb plan to not eat after 7 pm in an effort to lose weight and it's really driving me nuts because as I'm typing this, I am deathly hungry. As a result, I am in a really bad mood. tongue >_< tongue

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#39937: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:40:08 PM

[up]The thing about Doom is that, on paper, he's amazing. But whenever someone tries to adapt him to film, he turns out to be anything from a disappointment to an abomination. He's a Bad Ass Scientist-Sorcerer and monarch of a small country with just a few scruples. How can you screw that up? (Did I need to ask?tongue)

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39938: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:48:13 PM

[up] Evidently, you can screw Doom up by doing what Fox did just now. Or what they did back in 2007. Or 2 years before that.

I just want to see GOTG vol. 3 be about the Guardians teaming up with Galactus and the Silver Surfer to stop Annihilus and his Annihilation Wave. Is that so wrong? Admit it, you guys want to see that as much as I do.

edited 5th Aug '15 7:49:24 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#39939: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:48:48 PM

What we need is a Fantastic Four movie that will lean into the big goofy cosmic bullshit the comic itself tends to be good at.

I think reverting to Marvel Studios would be good for the property on those grounds and those grounds alone.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#39940: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:49:28 PM

I want a movie about the Future Foundation, dammit.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#39941: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:53:26 PM

The fantastic four I couldn't care less about.

The rest of the stuff their rights are tied into, however, are pretty damn nifty and I totally want them in the hands of someone competent.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39942: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:56:47 PM

I really want to spread #UnfantasticFour when talking about the new movie in the hopes that it'll spread across the rest of the Internet and it gets so annoying that Fox just hands over the rights to Marvel just to get us to shut up.

...If only that was a plausible move. tongue

[up] Actually I think you're not quite alone on that regard. In all honesty, I think I'm more interested in the cosmic characters that are associated with the F4 than the actual 4, now that I think about it. In fact, I think even Marvel is more interested with the cosmic characters themselves.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:01:01 PM by TargetmasterJoe

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#39943: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:00:51 PM

I'm fine with Fantastic Four's stuff never going to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#39945: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:46:57 PM

I don't care much about the Fantastic Four themselves, but the MCU is sorely missing Doom and Galactus, and how can Stan Lee have been Uatu all along?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#39946: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:48:41 PM

[up]

...and how can Stan Lee have been Uatu all along?

Wait, what?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#39947: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:52:56 PM

Why else would twenty versions of this same old man exist all over the MCU and the other various marvel properties/

My various fanfics.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39948: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:54:22 PM

[up][up]That's a popular fan theory for why Stan Lee keeps appearing in every single movie. I have to say it's one of the more interesting theories I've seen.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:54:33 PM by Kostya

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#39949: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:54:44 PM

[up][up]Because Marvel can't get enough of it's Stan Lee cameos?

[up]...Huh.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:55:08 PM by kkhohoho

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39950: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:56:31 PM

People still like to think there's an in universe reason.


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